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Through the turmoil and hoopla that has been going on in the recent weeks, one has to wonder where the auto surf industry is headed. Thousand of people have been scammed one way or another, which has left alot of people feeling that there is no place for them in the surf community. Some of the others that have not opted out are buying at a smaller scale with concerned interest.
The GPT industry has been set on it’s heels with payment processor problems and will make a comback. The ones that have been hurt by detained funds will either survive or collapse. The stronger GPT programs will make a comeback and be stronger for it. Most programs will bond together and create a strong community that will have a controlling voice in the industry. Charis Johnson, (12DailyPro) pioneered the beginning of the GPT convention. This shows the support and popularity of these programs all around the world of over 200 countries. You are the pioneers of this infant industry.
With this in mind we also have to focus on how we get our money into these programs. The easiest method has always been the process of bank or credit cards to the payment processor and then to the GPT/HYIP program. Then there is the program of going to a list of approved banks, to a currency /gold exchanger, to the gold trader, then to your GPT/HYIP program. The latter being a little more complex. This is why most novices to intermediate investors have chosen to use a common payment processor. The most common payment processor to use during the height of the industry was Stormpay. Stormpay had a monopoly on the industry until the dismantling of GPT/HYIP programs. Investors are left with a puzzlement as to which payment processor to use. You now have more choices depending on which program you belong to. You have www.alertpay.com , www.virtualgold.com , www.dxgold.com , www.egold.com , www.emocorp.com , www.netpay.tv , www.e-bullion.com , www.pecunix.com , www.moneybookers.com , www.goldmoney.com , www.paypal.com , www.be-cash.com , www.webmoney.com , www.westernunion.com , www.speedyexchange.com , www.sfipay.com , and a few more that are not in the major playing field. So, you can see that there are many choices that are available. Doing your do diligence also includes your payment processor, however, you might not have a choice, depending which program you go with. More than not, the mojor programs are going to select the one processor that they feel will be in their best interest, and the rest will follow because of convenience. Sit back and let all the dust settle before making a determination of which payment processor you want to go with.
We, as bloggers, have to do our do diligence on every site that we can to assure visitors that we have done all we can to assure them that a particular site has passed our test. Don’t rely on any one review to evaluate a questionable site, but do your own do diligence for your own peace of mind. Scam sites will always be a problem, unless we stop them before they can get your money.
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Nice thoughts and advice with a personal touch. Though I don’t like the idea of using Paypal for any of the GPT industry, they simply freeze peoples’ accounts off without any reasons at times.
Oh btw, I’ve edited netpay.com to netpay.tv, cos that’s the correct url
And thanks for writing this.
Here’s some info:
Steve Girsky
StormPay, Inc
1690 Golf Club Lane
Clarksville, TN 37043
Telephone: (931) 647-8750
Fax: (931) 647-8970
STEVEN C GIRSKY
4987 Shadowbend Cir
Clarksville, TN 37043-9007
(931) 362-9288
Stormpay Office:
(931) 647-8750 ext. 105
Girsky, Steven C (residence)
4987 Shadowbend Cir
Clarksville, TN 37043-9007
(931) 362-9288
Girsky, Steven C (office)
121 S Third St
Clarksville, TN 37040-3403
(931) 647-1501
Registered Agent and President:
Name: JOHN R. MCCONNELL, JR.
Address Line 1: 1690 GOLF CLUB LANE
City: CLARKSVILLE
State: TN
Zip: 37043
Telephone: (931) 647-8750
Fax: (931) 647-8970
Tymglobal.com is Steve Girsky
By now most of us know that StormPay and NetIBA were incorporated by the SAME person. Mr. John McConnell Jr is the registered agent, the principal officer, and the customer service contact of NetIBA. This man is also the registered agent of Stormpay. Steven Girsky is the CEO and Customer Service contact for StormPay. You can see my previous post on this at http://www.getpaidforum.com/forums/s…s-t425180.html.
Interestingly, these two men are also neighbors. From The State of Tennessee Comptroller of the Treasury, Real Estate Assessment Data website (http://170.142.31.248/ParcelList.asp or go to http://170.142.31.248/SelectCounty.a…lectCounty=063 and type Shadowbend in the Property Address Box):
MCCONNELL JOHN R
ETUX DEBORAH K
4975 SHADOWBEND CR
CLARKSVILLE , TN 37043
931-362-4116 (from www.whitepages.com)
This is where John lives. From the data you can see he lives in a 2 story, 3,012 sq ft home he bought for $266,000. He also owns 4981 and 4990 Shadowbend (both plots of land).
From the same site:
GIRSKY STEVEN C
ETUX CAROL L
4987 SHADOWBEND CR
CLARKSVILLE , TN 37043
931-362-9288 (from www.whitepages.com)
Steven lives in a 2 story, 3,692 sq ft home he bought for $250,000.
According to google maps: Map Link, they live 168 ft apart; it takes about 4 seconds to get from one house to the other.
Before filing a complaint with the BBB about StormPay, one should contact Steven Girsky at:
1690 GOLF CLUB LANE
CLARKSVILLE, TN, 37043
931-647-8750; Fax 931-647-8970
If you have a complaint about NetIBA, before filing with the BBB, you should contact John Mcconnell at (931) 905-0112. If you reverse search this number at www.whitepages.com, you find it belongs to NetIBA at 1690 Golf Club Lane, Clarksville, TN 37043.
Who owns 1690 Golf Club Lane you ask? This 2 story, 6,068 sq ft, 30 office building is owned by John R. Mcconnell! Imagine that!
No, you’re not seeing double, NetIBA is at the same address as StormPay, in the building owned by John McConnell. The only difference is the phone number.
My question: is it legal to call a business owner at home? Of course, you are almost certain to lose your account, rather than get anything resolved so I wouldn’t recommend it! Additionally, according to the BBB, Steven Girsky is a lawyer working for Batson, Nolan, Brice, Harvey, & Williamson. However, Steven Girsky is not listed on their web page: www.bnbwg.com. Nor is he listed as a member of the Tennesee Bar Association. I don’t dare speculate on this and anyone else inclined to do so should cease and desist!
Looking back at the Tennesee property records, I looked up S. Third St to see who owns the building where Steven is/was a lawyer. It’s owned by BNBWG Realty. Hmm, Could those letters stand for Batson, Nolan, Brice, Williamson, & Girsky? Doing a search on google tells me I am correct. However, the BBB doesn’t have a record of this company and the address is the same address as the attorney’s office address. I guess BNBWG Realty doesn’t do much business?
Want to see a picture of Steven Girsky? http://pview.findlaw.com/view/2558419_1?noconfirm=0
Finally, according to the BBB, Stormpay has “an unsatisfactory record due to a pattern of complaints received. In the past 36 months, the company has received complaints specifically concerning the company’s failure to inform and follow up with its customers when it suspends accounts, failure to release funds in a timely manner and failure to resolve complaints directly with company management. The company has responded to each complaint presented by BBB. However, the company has not eliminated the pattern of complaint. The BBB Definition of pattern: - More than 2 complaints involving the same allegations usually within 12 months that are significant in relation to the company’s size and volume of business. YTD 2006, the company has received 8 complaints; in 2005, the company received 49 complaints; in 2004, the company received 6 complaints.
In comparison, PayPal has a satisfactory record. To see the definition of satisfactory: http://www.bbbsilicon.org/commonreport.html?bid=210387
The proof is in the pudding folks. For all practical purposes, StormPay and NetIBA are the same company. Don’t be ripped off by them!
Additionally, If you are desperate to contact StormPay or it’s owner, I believe you can find enough information here to do so. You might have to think outside the box a bit though.
All the information provided here is a matter of public record. I have provided the links where you can find the same information for yourself. Being a web researcher, I know where to look for these kinds of things.
Contact his local Newspaper:
http://theleafchronicle.com/apps/pbcs.dll/frontpage
I wrote to the newspaper this morning, using the link that was available in a Sports Story. Here is the email back I just received:
Thank you for your e-mails. I’ve received several e-mails and phone calls over the past three days regarding StormPay.Com. Because this is no longer a sports story, I’ve forwarded all e-mails and links to our business editor/writer. Our news department will take this story from here. Thank you for your e-mails.
Jimmy Trodglen
Sports editor
The Leaf-Chronicle
Contact Steve Girsky’s Racing affiliates: Warn them!
Clarksville Speedway
wiltamracing@aol.com
Office: 931-645-2523
Fax # 931-645-5171
Golden Isle Speedway
GIS@GoldenIslesSpeedway.com
Columbus MS. Speedway
johnnyas1@bellsouth.net
Cleveland Speedway
| (423) 479-8574 |
Cleveland, Tennessee
Pike County Speedway
J.F. Gasquet
504.394.5530 or 504.442.8847
info@pikecountyspeedway.com
Talladega Short Track
http://www.talladegashorttrack.com/index.html
(256) 831-1413
East Bay Raceway Park
6311 Burts Road,
Tampa Florida 33619
1.813.677.7223
Where is OUR Money? Might be here?
From The Leaf-Chronicle, Clarksville TN. 01-20-2006
Clarksville Speedway gains new name, new sponsorship
Deal with StormPay.com will allow track to expand,
raise cash prizes
Sponsor helps track owners continue renovation By
JIMMY TRODGLEN The Leaf-Chronicle
A natural association of two enterprises involved in
dirt track racing turned into a business alliance
Friday when StormPay.com became the primary sponsor of
Clarksville Speedway.
StormPay.com — a payment processing company for online
auctions — and the speedway agreed to a two-year deal,
with an option for an additional two-year sponsorship.
Financial were not disclosed, but Steve Girsky,
CEO of StormPay.com, said sponsorship dollars will
allow the renamed Clarksville StormPay.com Speedway to
continue its expansion and renovation, while
increasing the cash awarded to race winners.
Girsky and speedway owners William and Tammy Scogins
began discussions about the business venture two weeks
ago. StormPay.com is the primary sponsor of the Crate
Racin’ USA Series, which has grown from a regional
dirt racing event into a national racing series in
only one year.
StormPay.com’s involvement in the speedway, a
clay-oval dirt track on Needmore Road, is a separate
business deal from its sponsorship of the racing
series.
“Anything and everything we do out here will be
focused around StormPay.com,†William Scogins said.
“It’s a great handshake that we’ve been able to find
somebody in our own town, in our community that’s
going to take interest in racing the way they’ve had.â€
StormPay.com’s involvement with the speedway also
includes the Friday night drag racing series and the
go-cart track.
The speedway is undergoing its most extensive
renovation since the Scoginses bought the facility
five years ago. Corporate suites and a new media tower
are under construction.
Jimmy Trodglen is sports editor and can be reached at
jimmytrodglen@theleafchronicle.com or at 245-0261.
Sponsorship adds fuel to speedway’s dreams
With fast rise of Crate series, round of upgrades that
includes suites, owners envision track becoming
entertainment hub By JIMMY TRODGLEN The Leaf-Chronicle
Before StormPay.com became the primary sponsor of the
Crate Racin’ USA Series, CEO Steve Girsky admits he
wasn’t much of a racing fan.
Now, he can’t watch enough racing, and the company he
helped launch four years ago has increased its impact
on the local racing scene.
StormPay.com — a payment processing company for online
auctions — became the primary sponsor of Clarksville
Speedway, the 40-year-old dirt track that launched the
career of Clarksville’s Jeff Purvis, and is the
central track for the launch of the Crate Racin’
Series, which has grown from a regional racing event
into a national series.
The two-year deal, with an option for an additional
two years, became official when Girsky and speedway
owners William and Tammy Scogin made the venture
officially known Friday.
With StormPay.com having its headquarters in
Clarksville, becoming the primary sponsor of the
clay-oval dirt track was an ideal fit.
“Truthfully, the sponsorship of our local track in the
hometown of our corporate headquarters was a natural
extension of our racing endeavors of what we’ve
undertaken in the past year,†Girsky said.
StormPay.com, which was launched in 2002, does
business in 200 countries and is expanding its
services to include e-mail accounts, Web pages, domain
registry and Web-based tools.
With this major sponsorship endeavor, the Clarksville
StormPay.com Speedway is positioned to speed up its
current expansion and renovation, while providing
bigger purses for the Crate Racin’ USA Series.
“We haven’t ear-marked money for any particular
purpose, other than set aside monies from the
sponsorship to these purses to make them bigger,â€
Girsky said.
Most dirt tracks pay $400 to their winner, but the
speedway will pay its winner $800.
The new Clarksville StormPay.com Speedway is currently
building corporate suites — a first for a dirt track —
in addition to a new media and scoring tower.
“We’re trying to give the community a place to have
people come in, businesses come in, and have a place
to entertain their clients,†Tammy said. “We’re hoping
that these suites go well this year, and that maybe if
word gets out, that we can add another roll of them
next year.â€
Added Girsky: “We’ve been to several (dirt tracks)
here recently and we haven’t come across one yet that
has suites.â€
Last season, the speedway was the host site for 200
events — including some that weren’t race related —
and averaged 1,200 in attendance with its stock car
series.
“All these corporate businesses, from mom and pa, to
2,000 people, we can entertain out here,†Tammy said.
“We can give them a little place they can do something
at.â€
Other renovations to the track facility include
replacing the fence alongside the road in front of the
track, in addition to building a new entrance and new
signs.
“It is a good venture for both companies. It’s an
asset for us we know, and we hope it’s an asset for
them,†William said. “Tammy and I have tried to
improve the place the longer we go.â€
The speedway has invested $30,000 in transponders to
assist in scoring the cars and the laps they’ve run.
StormPay.com will also help drivers find corporate and
business sponsors to cover the costs of their
operation.
“For these guys, it costs a lot of money to race and
expand the base of the sport,†Girsky said. “If we can
get sponsorship for the drivers, we’ve helped another
set of fans.â€
StormPay.com’s interest in auto racing was initiated
after it was approached by a Nextel Cup team looking
for sponsorship. Girsky met with Purvis, who spent
nearly 20 years racing on the ARCA, NASCAR Busch and
then-Winston Cup series, to learn what would be
involved in sponsorship.
It was Purvis who tipped StormPay.com, which is the
primary sponsor of Purvis’ Crate Series car, about the
Crate engine, and its future in dirt track racing.
Motors for late model cars can cost $40,000, but the
Crate engines cost between $3,000 and $5,000, and
their speeds and horsepower are similar to those of
the more costly motors.
“This whole series is the wave of the future,†Girsky
said. “You can race a car and buy an engine from
$3,000 to $5,000 dollars, and race against
NASCAR-level competition.â€
Jimmy Trodglen is sports editor and can be reached by
e-mail at jimmytrodglen@theleafchronicle.com or by
phone at 245-0261.
Government Actions Against Steve Girsky:
Government Actions
On August 7, 2003, the Tennessee Securities Division of the Department of Commerce & Insurance issued an “Order to Cease and Desist” (file number 03-020) with TymGlobal, Inc., StormPay, Inc. and John R. McConnell, Jr.
The order states that TymGlobal and StormPay are under common ownership and/or control. TymGlobal operates an internet website which is registered to StormPay. On the internet website, respondents are operating a pyramid and/or Ponzi scheme promising large returns on investments for participating in the scheme. The order further states that TymGlobal has not registered any securities offerings with the Division pursuant to Tennessee Securities Act of 1980. Nor has the company registered with the Division as a broker-dealer, agent of a broker-dealer or investment adviser. Also, the respondent StormPay has not registered any securities offerings with the Division nor has the company registered with the Division as a broker-dealer, agent of a broker-dealer, or investment adviser. John R. McConnell, Jr. has not registered with the Division as a broker-dealer, an agent of a broker-dealer or as an investment adviser.
Potential investors were given the opportunity to invest in both partnership shares as TymGlobal as well as to participate in various Ponzi schemes. Respondents promised a high return. The offering of participation in the schemes sold by the respondents is an investment contract and thus, a security under the act.
The Division ordered the respondents TymGlobal, StormPay and John R. McConnell, Jr to cease and desist the conduct of a broker-dealer in the state of Tennessee until such time as it effectively registers with the Division. The order did not intend to prohibit lawful conduct of the respondents.
For additional information concerning this order, please contact Daphne Smith, Assistant Commissioner for Securities, State of Tennessee, Department of Commerce and Insurance, Suite 680, 500 James Robertson Pky, Nashville, TN 37243.
Report as of February 2, 2006
Copyright© 2006 Better Business Bureau®, Inc.
Since talking to the governor’s office in Tennessee Stormpay has many complaints in the past about issues frozen accounts. i spoke with Becky Bradley and she has asked that you email any and all information to her about Stormpay wrong doing her email address is becky.bradley@state.tn.us apparently she wants to help get this resolve in a timely manner.
Edited to add: Stormpay is now verified/certified by completely different company that 2 days ago: Geotrust.com.
Thank you for the amazing find! Would you mind if I blog an entry just based on your comment?
While waiting for 12dailypro and Stormpay issue to be resolved, don’t give up but search for other opportunities.
I recommend http://support.probuilderplus.com , they are not autosurf. I signed up after spending 5 minutes going through their website.
Sign up for free and tour their site. This maybe a new income stream for you.
This is not spam. There’s nothing we can do about 12dailypro at the moment. Trying to locate 12dailypro members in order to show them the new program.