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Jul 26th 2006
A long time ago, a friend of mine introduced me to a program that have always kept paying, the program is called: Forex-United (http://www.forex-united.com/). So for those who are looking for something else that the traditional hyips/AS and want to invest in a REAL, solid company with past successful trading performances, I invite them to check this program.
Forex-United has been founded by a respectable Forex expert: Patrick D. Albers. It’s a well established company which have been helping investors achieve their financial goals over 24 years, the commission rates vary between 8%-14% per week and you can set your account to compound. There’s a 5% ref. commission. The percentages are not outrageous and are very effective for what is being offered. The investors are paid weekly directly into their e-gold accts (no need to make a request) but the compounding are re-investing and not paid directly to your e-gold. However if you decide to make a withdrawal request from your compounding acct, the withdrawal requested are processed in 24 hours. Multiple investments are also allowed.
Minimum investment is: $10 and maximum: $3,000 (for one single application). The good thing is there’s $0 Trading Commision, $0 Maintenance Fee, a Free Account Opening.
I like the professionalism of the website that is completely secured by SSL 128 bits encryption. The investors get regular updates like the Highly Updated Performance Reports and Forex Market News. It’s also an educational site where the beginners can learn a lot about Forex. They gave you the opportunity of being in a forex program where they offered managed accts how you probably never be able to understand how to work forex yourself. The trading performances and statistics are updated in the website 2 times a day. The payments of returns are made weekly but you can check the daily performance to make the decision to invest.
And last but not the least, my friend told me she always got quick responses and help from the admin.
Popularity: 2% [?]
Although I have no doubt that Forex-United may be a great game to play, you have gone and basically GUARANTEED by using capital letters in relation to it being a REAL program that it is indeed a real program.
For such an educational real site, why is it tacky, and may I ask - why are all the ‘articles’ merely public domain articles that basically exist to be copied and pasted into a random scam or adsense-rich page looking for more content and clicks?
Like I said, they look like they could be a good game, but basically everything you’ve lined out is just the usual vague scam-rhetoric.
No doubt, people play the game, just know it’s a game (until I see proof otherwise, which there may well be, I am just yet to see it!)
SSL, public domain articles, a responsive admin, and ‘twice-daily updated statistics’ having nothing to do with legitimacy.
They can be signs of people digging in for the long haul however.
I said this program is REAL (in caps) to distinguish with the traditional hyips with no real investments that are simply partial or pure ponzis. And personally I don’t know a lot of scammers who are putting their photo in their website (like the founder of this company did).
They also keep informed their investors regularly about their trading performances & statistics, the highly updated performance reports and forex market news (it’s NOT fake stats, can be verified easily). But the most important is that they keep paying for years (I don’t know a single scam sites that keep paying so long). Anyway, it’s better than a game. I only regret I didn’t join this one earlier otherwise I would not be here talking with you… just kidding!!!
Oh I didn’t respond to this one earlier when they asked me to do a review on them. They gave me a very vague and lame excuse on their admin getting life threats and all which puts me off. I won’t recommend Forex-United in my opinion.
Luc,
Welcome to blogging! It’s good to have you here.
- Sharon
Ha! ok! my friend was satisfied with their service. Anyway I’ve joined as a free member. I just watch the progress of the program at the moment.
This is a obvious scam, Luc. At your level you should have distingush it fairly easily.
Luc, its good, let us know what happens here alright?
Cheers!
sharonopinion, thanks for your welcome. I’m happy to belong to the family of blog posters.
Jude, yes I’ll keep you informed if there’s anything new.
SeriousInvestors, scam or not (I won’t argue here).. at least they keep paying for months (I don’t know a lot of scams which last that long). If you joined this program from the beginning you would be a winner!
I’ve joined forex-united since early April. My profits are more than 100% (meaning that I got my capital back!). So far so good to me. They just launched the compounding method - early July I think.
Is not the question whether they are legal or not… or scams or whatever… but so far they paid in time, quick response from admin and I have faith with them. Last time, I joined Compactsurfing (Jude recommends)….. but what has happened to them now? So, the question is whether we want to take the risks or not… (bear that in mind).
But Luc, three posts ago you were guaranteeing they were real and now you are saying they could be a scam?
Many scams post photos and newsletters. ALL the info in their ‘articles’ and “Forex Update Newsletters” are merely PUBLIC DOMAIN like a news feed that can be copy and pasted… it’s like Reuters for scammers.
Also, the fact they’ve been around for months mean their closer to extinction.
How is their information verifiable?
Before you stated they’d been around for years, and now they’re ‘paying for months.’
Sorry, I get jumped on for being sarcastic when people miss the point of my jokes, and also when I clearly label something as a game I get done for promoting ’scams’ (duh, I mention they are scams/games in the bloody article, what more do you want?) so I thought I’d be - besides SeriousInvestor - the one to stand up here and actually point out that this is a very obvious scam (until otherwise proven. Miracles do happen.)
Also big ups to Jude for at least pointing out his wariness towards it. *thumbs up*
In summation - it could be a fun, profitable game, but you’ve made a big change in attitude from it’s REAL and been around for years to your last post.
Pls, re-read my posts properly. I only said to SeriousInvestor >> “scam or not (I won’t argue), they are paying for months…” I NEVER said this program is a scam. For me Forex-United is NOT a scam cause most of the scams don’t keep paying for months/years and even if it was a scam (again it’s an ASSUMPTION), at least you would have made a lot of profit if you’ve joined from the beginning. Most of the hyips/AS with HONEST, TRUSTWORTHY admins are rarely paying that long.
How long this program has been around?.. Again I refer to my friend who has been paid almost 1 year (it’s a long time anyway) but this company was operating offline before (for over 24 years) and was always paying as reported, that’s why I said they’d been around for years. I don’t want to say something wrong: I don’t really know how long they are operating online (I have to make a search) but most probably over than a year and so far I never heard a single person reporting they’ve not been paid.
About their information, I said it’s easily verifiable, here again I never heard ppl reporting their infos are false. The admin put his photo in his website, again I don’t know a lot of scammers who are showing their picture publicly otherwise he would be a bad scammer.
Now I don’t have my crystal ball to say how long they will be around but - as you may know - every programs - scams or not - good or bad - come to an end at a certain time. This program has been around for a long time BUT I don’t think they are close to their extinction.
Only time will tell…
Thnx Aleeza for your excellent comment. I’m agree with you and you confirm what my friend told me about their service, she always got quick responses and always got paid in time.
Chancer has also recommended many programs that have failed quickly BUT forex-united still keep paying after many years (if we take in account their program offline).
I second what u said again.. whatever a program is a scam or not (according to me this one is NOT), we have to accept the risk involved.. and to be frank I believe my money is safer here than in most hyips/AS recommended on internet.
Just a note on Forex United:
Did you notice “Albers” name is spelled “Alberts” as well on the same bio page? How could someone misspell something as important as a name ??
Why would anyone believe that photo really IS this Albers/Alberts anyway? Easy as pie to fake.
Also the clock for EST is one hour off - and no forum to tell thm this hehehe hmmmmm
Anyway, it looks like as good a program as any out there, but REAL needs some PROOF IMO.
Luc, I’m a little disappointed in you.
Because dude it is NOT an honest site. Everything on it is just copy and paste public domain.
It’s a SCAM. Play it, have fun but this is not MMG and “time will not tell.” That’s guff.
Opinions, opinions, opinions…
Has anyone done a real DD on this program?
Is the original info stated facts or Hearsay?
We must destinguish between “games” and
“real”.
I like both, but the approach to each one is
different.
I like to know, as best I can, that money earmarked
for my future is relatively secure.
BigMoke
So I can’t even spell my own name, duh!!!
I tried, but since they gave me a lame reason on not disclosing themselves, i’d place them on the games/ponzi list. You can’t blame me for doing that. The email that they replied after looking for me for a DD.
Here.
Hi Jude.
Thanks for your prompt response. It interest me. However i would like
to know what kind of informations do you need to perform the
Due-Diligence. I will explain: our company and our brokerage accounts
are offshored, just to avoid the exposure of our details and the
breaking of our privacy and the privacy of our customers, for many
reasons you may know. An simple example about what i mean is that we
used to provide phone support until last month, but we were obligated to
disable it due to the excessive number of calls we were receiving daily
that were harming our work. It came up to the limit when we received a
couple of kidnapping threats targeted directly to our CEO and his
family, considering that we manage a considerable amount of funds from
investors. I expect your kind understanding and hope to hear a positive
position from you.
Mike
Customer Support
Forex-United.com
kidnapping threats? they’re in israel or woot?
kidnapping threats.. yes I admit it’s a bit exaggerate but I understand their attitude. Internet is dangerous and the admins have to protect their privacy and those of their customers for security reasons.
My friend told me today that it depends on how a question is put, if it is not written in the correct way, then only a vague reply can be received.
At least they are responsive… you probably received their answer within 24hrs (not bad!).
Quick response = no different to most places.
Facts have been presented. All this ‘content’ and teaching aids, articles. etc. are just COPY AND PASTES of public domain crap. There is no original content on the site.
It is a GAME and I am all for GAMES but to blatantly masquerade that it is real and then back off a bit and say “uh, they MIGHT be real and at least they pay!” I just find… irksome.
(*Disclaimer: As usual, as with ANYTHING there is a possibility they are real, but so far there are NO indications that they are. Nothing. They read and look like a third rate scam and their ‘proofs’ suck.)
No one go in with the illusion that this is real, go in knowing it is a game. But to state some of the things that have been stated so far reads too much like a MMG thread. I thought we were all smarter and had more scruples then that.
Sophie, I refer to your question (also asked on MMG). Does it really matter as long as they pay. They probably made a mistake in typing, they are human beings. This doesn’t prove it’s a scam.
Chancer, ok! you treat this program as a GAME (it’s your choice) but why don’t you join as u like GAMES.
Luc, after which no responses came in after I asked for the stuffs I want.
Luc,
After being around town for over 2 years in this arena, you say, ‘what does it matter as long as they are paying’… classic.
response:
THEY (scams) ALL PAY UNTIL THEY STOP
I am not saying they are, but there is no proof they are not.
Sophie
Sophie, Not ALL SCAMS pay.. A lot of scams don’t pay at all from the beginning and most of the scams that are paying don’t pay that long.. Even reliable programs with honest admins come to an end at a certain time with the same consequences anyway: those at the bottom lines are the fat losers.
And most of the programs that are dealing with Forex trading are less likely to scam you (but this is my personal observation).
I agree with Luc. Even if we get the DD of certain companies, doesn’t mean that they will be able to pay the investors for a long time, like Forex-United. For example, if we get DD from Compactsurfing, what happened to them now? And what about Pointsharextreme? or Marcos forex? or other companies that willing to give their DD, but unable to sustain… (to pay profits to their investors).
When I first joined Forex-United…(I have never heard of them before).. they are not famous, like 12dailypro, or Nowdollar or Compactsurfing, but the important thing is that THEY MAINTAIN TO PAY THEIR PROFITS TO INVESTORS for a long time… and most of them are very very happy. Even now, I get back my capital, and just compounding my profits (after 3 months joining). My opinion is that they are experienced, systematic and good traders plus have large sum of back up capital for contigencies. However, we don’t know what will happen in the future, right? God knows….
So back to the question: whether to take the risks or not. Not many companies wanted to reveal their facts and figures, that is their privacy ie. just like our bank accounts - so we must understand that.
Another question is can we confirm that a company that shows a ‘great’ DD is not a scam?? What IF the company/program is not a scam, but UNABLE to make or to pay profits to investors like us ?? Failure…. or no experience…. or probably ‘no sustaining power’??
This is the answer of few questions you asked before, again some won’t be agree. I just deliver the info.
I took the messg from Mike who posted in MMG forum:
—————–
Hi all.
Sorry for not being here all the time.
There are three accounts managed by two traders each. This information was passed to many people. I think it was not mentioned here.
About the post ‘attacking’ us, i am really sad about it. We work hard here to maintain the quality of the service and to cover the promised interests. Yes, we trade forex. No, Patrick is not an trader. He´s our boss. Most part of the texts of the site were written by me and many people know i am not american and many of you may have noticed that my english is not very good. The point is that i try to be as much clear as possible, to avoid misunderstandings. The whois is protected for privacy. I could not find where in the site the name of Patrick is bad written. But, what is the problem with this. I provide direct land line phone for those who contact me and this was told before, the phone support is no longer available in the site. I was receiving dozens of calls daily and it was prejudicing the business. Now, i answer much less calls daily and i am glad to support our customers. I receive and answer hundreds of email daily too in no more than an hour. But seems that it´s not enough for some guys. I sincerely don´t know what to do more. We will keep the hard work no matter what people say and we will stay here. You know that. So, let´s get back to work.
Have you all a good weekend.
Mike.
Still Luc, thanks for the updates and really, no bad feelings. We could move this to our private forum to our FIGHT RING if anyone of you has any problems *WINK*
Thnx Jude! Whatever what you decide is fine for me.
forex-unite?its a scam alright…scam,scam,scam…confirmed scam
Today, Nov 4, website of forex-united.com page cannot displayed. Anyone know about this one? I try to check at netcraft.com, there is message that the site failed hostname. And at Whois, there is no name of organization, there is no IP adress etc.
hmm… the page is now not available?
scam scam scam… forex united!!!!!!!!
The site has been down a couple of days now. Does anyone know where the emergency site/forum is located? I really had hopes that Forex-United would at least last just a little longer…
mmhh!.. yeah!.. doesn’t sound good now!
But every programs (bad or good) come to an end at a certain time anyway.. at least this one lasted long.
“Have faith oh yeah of little faith”
I have’nt been that long with Forex-United but I am in profit and for this reason I cannot label them as a scam, and personally, I don’t believe that they are a scam.
It happened previously that they’ve been offline over a weekend - it is nothing new!
Therefore, let’s keep up our faith!
Uhm, faith permutes to nothing here when it comes to a dead site. And the returns weren’t paid since then. So be realistic and move on, FC
My “gut” tells me that if they are not back by tomorrow, Monday, Nov. 05 then they are most probably “dead” - I hope not!
bushit, it’s not because a program has stopped paying you should consider it as a scam.. I don’t say this program is (was) not a scam, I’m just saying that when ppl make a statement, they have to show some proofs!
Luc,
It’s 3 days now and d site is not back, what do u now call them?
I sent an e-mail to its admin@forex-united.com. This is what I received from MAILER-DAEMON@yahoo.com. I guess it’s confirmed the site doesn’t exist any more. Is this not a SCAM?
“Hi. This is the qmail-send program at yahoo.com.
I’m afraid I wasn’t able to deliver your message to the following
addresses.
This is a permanent error; I’ve given up. Sorry it didn’t work out.
I couldn’t find any host by that name. (#4.1.2)
I’m not going to try again; this message has been in the queue too
long.”
Scam Scam
scam…..
I emailed admin and reply fast… he told me that forex-united will be here for atleast 1 year more… but what happen???? LIAR!…. owner of that site should die…
Yes, Forex-United is a scam. You don’t leave a webpage with ‘NOTHING’ for your trusted investors. That is an insult. Forex-unites is like Solid investment, VIP Auri Velum and the likes of them. People with no love, heart or conscience. Exploiting their fellow men “for the love of money”. “Woe unto him that buildeth his house by unrighteousness, and his chambers by wrong; that useth his neighbour’s service without wages, and giveth him not for his work;” (Jer 22:13) Here is a good site:
http://www2.eutradeltd.com/They have been paying faith since I joined 9/4/06. You withdraw instantly to your e-gold account. Give it a try.
No referral links allowed - Jude
gnbshk, you gave us a link (that is forbidden) but there’s NO guarantee to know if your program won’t turn to scam…
It’s always the same story, you know! Nothing new under the sun!
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It’s me who started this thread almost 2 years ago. I’ve almost forgot that one. Anyhow, I don’t regret it cause I made profit with this program (it was a good one at this time).
BTW, David, did you try the link you’re recommending?