Does anyone have any updated information about trying to recover funds from this scam? Thanks for any help.

Tony

There are many pages of useful advice, including “WHAT TO DO IF YOU DISCOVER YOU ARE THE MIDDLEMAN TO A FRAUD”

You CAN Fight Back!

You’ve been scammed…But you’re not the first victim of an unscrupulous Scam Artist. They’re everywhere…Because the money’s good. They don’t care about the damage they do to others…Only about turning a fast buck at the expense of others. The good news is that more and more consumers are fighting back and putting these Scammers out of business, and in some cases, behind bars. If you’ve been scammed, let’s look at some of the weapons you have at your disposal.

First, it’s obviously best if you can work out your differences with the company directly. If you haven’t already, simply write them a letter stating that you misunderstood what products or services they were going to provide in return for your payment. Keep the tone upbeat and be nice. Explain that you won’t be able to benefit from their product or service (for whatever reasons apply), but that you’re sure that others will. End your letter by asking how to obtain a refund and to what address the merchandise should be returned. If you have their written money-back guarantee and you are still within the terms that are defined in it, state so in your letter. Be sure to send your letter by requiring proof of delivery (Certified Mail with Return Receipt Requested or Registered Mail) and keep a copy for yourself. More often than not, this works with legitimate companies that value their reputation.

If you’ve dealt directly with the company, but still haven’t received a satisfactory response, then contact your credit card company. Hopefully, you made your purchase with a major credit card. If so, then you have an extra level of protection against fraud. Call your customer service number on the back of your credit card, explain your situation and tell them that you want to dispute a charge. Follow the directions they give you and the company may actually be “charged back”, and you’ll have the disputed amount credited back to your credit card account.

If the company is Internet-based, then you can also contact the The Better Internet Bureau at their Web site (Better Business Bureau) . The Better Internet Bureau is an online, non-profit organization that’s dedicated to making the Internet a safer place for people worldwide. There are posted procedures for reporting Web sites that are doing something illegal, dishonest or dangerous so that others can be warned.

Another course of action you can take involves consumer advocates. Most cities have at least one television or radio personality whose job is to investigate complaints made about products and services. You’ve probably seen them on your local news or heard them during your drive home. Contact the consumer hotline at the sponsoring television or radio station and explain your story. They may be able to help you get your money back, and they may also alert others in your area to the scam and the offending company.

If you’re still unsuccessful, then you should start getting help from government groups and agencies. The National Consumer League’s National Fraud Information Center (NFIC) was established in 1992 to help consumers and law enforcement agencies in the fight against telemarketing (and Internet) fraud. Through its toll-free hotline, (800) 876-7060, the NFIC accepts reports from consumers about suspected telemarketing or Internet fraud. Reports can also be filed online at the NFIC’s Web site, www.fraud.org(created in 1996). These reports are then relayed to a variety of local, state and federal law enforcement agencies, alerting them to problems that they may wish to investigate and providing them with the ammunition they need to stop fraud.

The NFIC also has direct links to many other, more specific government agencies that can help you (Commodity Futures Trading Commission, Federal Trade Commission, U.S. Postal Service, etc.). Every state also has an Attorney General who is responsible for protecting the public against fraudulent and deceptive telemarketers and others who prey on unsuspecting victims. The NFIC Web site has contact information for the Attorney General’s office in your state, including direct links to their Web site (if it has a Web site established).

If you have lost a substantial amount of money to fraud, you may want to contact a local, qualified attorney who can assist you in possible legal action. Sometimes a letter from an attorney’s office can be very successful in getting cooperation from the offending company.

Finally, even if you were unsuccessful in getting all or part of your money back, you can still file a complaint with the local Chamber of Commerce and/or Better Business Bureau ( www.bbb.org) where the company is located. This may help “get the word out” so that others are not victimized.

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…… Carousel fraudster jailed for 15 years:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/6242619.stm

Hope all the investors scammed in KAonline actually take some action against the operators/gangsters behind
Its left a feeling of shame to be scammed, to be a victim …makes me angry to… witch not helps! if not use it in any efforts of available action in attempt to serve justice …

From my point of view its also a shame, if people rather would let the scammer easily walk away with their hard earned money, people must really have a warm heart -or feelings of guilt for trusting and being victimized - … if give up… its like to be a sleeping partner with the scammer… so then he/she can just walk away with all of ours hard-earned and saved money.

People like this scammer, can come here and take advantage of peoples trust in his/ her promising words and use all of that to steal people’s money…its indeed a criminal behaviour and not in line with any ethics and its unacceptable to just let it go and continue in other gangster forms of investments opportunities.
Its not a crime to do investments and its not a crime to trust in peoples words… but today it sometimes seems to be reversal.

Also like scammers use more and more of “sophisticated” crime methods to betray people and use different kind of gates for more easily run away. This kind of personalities are really sick, but not so sick that they have to be left out without any attempt to demands of responsibilities

Anyway I don’t support to let the scammer just get away after all the lies and disinformation in intentions to fraud us and to use this to fool investors to … looks to me like the scammer intended to betray and steal people’s money right from the start, all of false papers and preparation before and after… this will probably learn us to be even more carefully, selecting the good ones from the bad hopefully … but also to not open up for scammers to continue through our ignorance and acceptance of these kind of behaviour to fool us. Even if it’s a feeling of little we can do against, everything we do is counted … ATogether we are stronger! How can we help each other?
And please not to forget …and let sink in to the unconsoiusness where it will demands your energy DO ACT I will do my best

http://complaint.ic3.gov/
https://rn.ftc.gov/pls/dod/wsolcq$.startup?Z_ORG_CODE=PU01

anyway since this was a major loss from my side, i would consider all this HYIP’s arena a scammers heaven, and i have much more good places to spent my money to, rather than to mafia and mob’s

If you are 100% sure that you know the true names and location of Navarro; et al, why not publicize their names and other pertinent information. Some of us may still have friends from the other side of the old iron curtian from our cold war military days, that could certainly call in a few favors in Romania. Perhaps those responsible for this could be persuaded to experience a rebirth of integrity.

It would be nice if we have someone who’s really into justice, maybe some sort of entity could be formed, like what you have said.

I apologize for disapearing for a while,the reason I didnt back anymore to all investors is because the situation turned so complicated by different factors that I will list here:

1) The money I was spending with the investigatio and law firm was raising to almost the 50% of the money I invested. That is not the major factor since I just wanted justice. Also I received emails from investors who was able to help with the expenses of this process but it was something I didnt take since it could drive to some people to think Im a scammer too trying to take advantage of the situation.

2) So far we got good and real information the fact is that they ran away to other country where is pretty hard to take legal actions. So it turned in a very hard situation for us with no guarantees of success even for jail or extradiction to USA.

3) I have a company that needs me since Im the operation manager and Co-Funder and all this time I were leaving my real bussines away for being trying to make justice.

4) We have the real information of the scammers since Kevin, Benjamin and Sylvia exist but are not the scammers those are just stolen names not the real scammers names, I have the real ones, but again they already ran away to a very hard country where online crimes are not classified in their law, the law firm was in touch with FBI and exposed the situation to them but the answer from them was the same, there would be almost impossible to catch them because as they said in their past experience the goverment of that country didnt help at all(Romania).

5) I have no issues with exposing all my real info to Jude so he can check for himself that I have nothing to do with this Hyip bussines it was just a investment I made in KAO to get extra money from their investment plans, but Im not used to join this kind of investments, was the 1st time I joined.

As I said before my only intention was recover my money or send them to jail and help all other scammed investors, I never had any shaddy intention and all the people with which I was in contact could confirm that, they offered money to help me out with the expenses but I always refused.

In this case was the first time I made a investingation work like this , thats the reason because I maybe failed in achieve our objective, but this doesnt mean it was in vain, I learned and lot of people raised their voices. So this means that this arena is able to change if somebody with more experience or maybe the creation of some kind of association for this matters could born from this, not from my side but there is a lot of reputable people and investors who Im sure are willing to do something like this. I learned that organization and timing is the most important to take an action like this and this not only when the scammer run away , it should be monitored and investigated in depth during the program life.

Jude I appreaciete all the help during this movement against them, we were close to achieve it but the lack of experience on my side to organize something like this was very weak. Im not sure yet if I will continue on this arena and take an action to create some kind of entitie who could help in this cases of course not necesary driven by me, mainly driven by all investors and reputable people in this arena, also previous information from autorities could help to build this kind of society, that way this could be a civil action with people who previously will get informed in the processes that need to be made in Scam cases so they are applied instantly and the probability of catch them / recover money could be much higher.

I apologize if I wasted other investors time including Jude time, but I just wanted to help, this time we lost a battle but we will win next ones if for real everybody get informed and when this cases come we are ready and one step ahead of them so we give them no chances to run as this happened.

As stated before feel free to make public my information IP etc, it is paid ssl proxy so makes no real sense, but anyway again Im able to provide you my info so you can verify Im a legit person who doesnt have anything to hide.

NightStalker

than Its not so easy to forget the loss in KAonline for me either

Any updates from NightStalker ?
What kind of real information do NightStalker have about it?
Is he/she willing to share this info with us as well?

Im also wondering to if shall we do something together or if each one have to do their own claim
i read that cchristos have filed his/hers complain to the proper authorities(USA) Dec 19th, … 19 days after hm… now its Jan 2th… im little worried for time passing without any info, as it was said and as far as i understod
Still waiting for the info on how to continue …

hyip can be something that you can pick up to diverse on your portfolio, but to all its own

It’s simple I have been had & so have the rest of the membership who did not get their seed back from KAO.

KAOwas infact small potatoes compared to some HYIPS.

I repeat ALL HYIP’S ARE SCAMS.

I’m not in profit with KA, but I’m not at loss too since the amount i punt in hasn’t been compounding since the beginning (only towards the end)

what sort of rumours are you talking about?

Holds true for the HYIP=Hopin Your Interest Pays… No fed agency will ever get a dime back for any participant but may serve a warrent for illegal racketeering or sum sort of trumped up charge(s)

Attorney charge aren’t cheap.

I myself have fallen hard to these crooks in the year 2006 thousands of USD’s gone& only a few thousand made back I figure I made back 2100 so they all combined got me for $22,900 USD’s one month’s wages & i just got screwed on a $1 thing. Please don’t fall prey to these guys’ agin quit whilst your a head any person who believes that they may get even a penny back may end up in jail if they accept it.

I have an attorney who tried to help go after the Pola’s The Oscar freeman Tony in 360 leave it alone lick your wounds like a dog & move on & i mean leave the HYIP arena alone very few get something back…