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	<title>Comments on: Alien Trust - And You think the Dust have Settled?</title>
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		<title>By: RavenM1</title>
		<link>http://hyipblog.nobshyip.net/2006/12/27/alien-trust-and-you-think-the-dust-have-settled/#comment-203953</link>
		<author>RavenM1</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Oct 2008 12:24:52 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://hyipblog.nobshyip.net/2006/12/27/alien-trust-and-you-think-the-dust-have-settled/#comment-203953</guid>
		<description>An update - actually there is no update on AT. No refunds in 2008. My wife thinks Vince is in Belize or Bermuda enjoying all the money he kept. Zapwire died in early 2008 I think...
Gloria asked if there any good sites back in Feb 2007. I'm sure most sites active then are closed although I did run across a rather low yield site claiming to have been up since January '07. Right now Megalido seems to be the best surf... I listed it in "my website"

Alientrust did last 7 months even with the Stormpay scandal (Feb 06). It did pay regularly from March till June. It was after June that the program officially became scam.
12daily pro lasted about 11 months and was still going strong. I don't think 12DP scammed, it was closed due to the Stormpay freeze and court intervention.
These programs can last a year or more if they are run right and honestly. I think Vince had a little trouble then got greedy. He turned out to be a bad alien! :(</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>An update - actually there is no update on AT. No refunds in 2008. My wife thinks Vince is in Belize or Bermuda enjoying all the money he kept. Zapwire died in early 2008 I think&#8230;<br />
Gloria asked if there any good sites back in Feb 2007. I&#8217;m sure most sites active then are closed although I did run across a rather low yield site claiming to have been up since January &#8216;07. Right now Megalido seems to be the best surf&#8230; I listed it in &#8220;my website&#8221;</p>
<p>Alientrust did last 7 months even with the Stormpay scandal (Feb 06). It did pay regularly from March till June. It was after June that the program officially became scam.<br />
12daily pro lasted about 11 months and was still going strong. I don&#8217;t think 12DP scammed, it was closed due to the Stormpay freeze and court intervention.<br />
These programs can last a year or more if they are run right and honestly. I think Vince had a little trouble then got greedy. He turned out to be a bad alien! <img src='http://hyipblog.nobshyip.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: gary hincman</title>
		<link>http://hyipblog.nobshyip.net/2006/12/27/alien-trust-and-you-think-the-dust-have-settled/#comment-106141</link>
		<author>gary hincman</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Dec 2007 16:45:53 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://hyipblog.nobshyip.net/2006/12/27/alien-trust-and-you-think-the-dust-have-settled/#comment-106141</guid>
		<description>Does anyone know if Alien Trust has had legal action taken against them to recover the funds / $  we ( fools)  lost

12 daily pro is in  the middle of a legal attack at this time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does anyone know if Alien Trust has had legal action taken against them to recover the funds / $  we ( fools)  lost</p>
<p>12 daily pro is in  the middle of a legal attack at this time.</p>
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		<title>By: kevin</title>
		<link>http://hyipblog.nobshyip.net/2006/12/27/alien-trust-and-you-think-the-dust-have-settled/#comment-93468</link>
		<author>kevin</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Nov 2007 22:48:16 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://hyipblog.nobshyip.net/2006/12/27/alien-trust-and-you-think-the-dust-have-settled/#comment-93468</guid>
		<description>I lost $8000USD in alient trust I need my money back now!!!!!!!!!! If anyone knows the whereabouts of vince lets get the FBI on his case</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I lost $8000USD in alient trust I need my money back now!!!!!!!!!! If anyone knows the whereabouts of vince lets get the FBI on his case</p>
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		<title>By: sharonsopinion</title>
		<link>http://hyipblog.nobshyip.net/2006/12/27/alien-trust-and-you-think-the-dust-have-settled/#comment-41801</link>
		<author>sharonsopinion</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Feb 2007 18:31:03 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://hyipblog.nobshyip.net/2006/12/27/alien-trust-and-you-think-the-dust-have-settled/#comment-41801</guid>
		<description>HI Gloria,

I accidently wrote .com instead of .net for my email address.  I corrected it.  Please try it again.

Thanks,
Sharon</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>HI Gloria,</p>
<p>I accidently wrote .com instead of .net for my email address.  I corrected it.  Please try it again.</p>
<p>Thanks,<br />
Sharon</p>
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		<title>By: gloria</title>
		<link>http://hyipblog.nobshyip.net/2006/12/27/alien-trust-and-you-think-the-dust-have-settled/#comment-41767</link>
		<author>gloria</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Feb 2007 14:08:36 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://hyipblog.nobshyip.net/2006/12/27/alien-trust-and-you-think-the-dust-have-settled/#comment-41767</guid>
		<description>Hi Sharon    I can't get an e-mail sent to you through your link here and I also tried by copying and pasteing your e-mail address in to send but it came back to me undelivered. Let me know what sites you recomend. Thanks
Gloria</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Sharon    I can&#8217;t get an e-mail sent to you through your link here and I also tried by copying and pasteing your e-mail address in to send but it came back to me undelivered. Let me know what sites you recomend. Thanks<br />
Gloria</p>
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		<title>By: sharonsopinon</title>
		<link>http://hyipblog.nobshyip.net/2006/12/27/alien-trust-and-you-think-the-dust-have-settled/#comment-41636</link>
		<author>sharonsopinon</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Feb 2007 21:47:57 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://hyipblog.nobshyip.net/2006/12/27/alien-trust-and-you-think-the-dust-have-settled/#comment-41636</guid>
		<description>Yes, I do.  You can send me an email at sharonsopinion@nobshyip.net .  Also, if you're not on Jude's mailing list, sign up.  From there you'll receive the information to get to Jude's portfolio, where he has his recommendations listed.

Another resource that I recommend is HYIP101.  It includes an excellent book on HYIPs, a very good list of programs, a forum with lots of expertise that will answer any question, and a bunch of bonuses.  You can look into HYIP101 at http://www.hyip101.com/go.php?r=686.

Good luck!
- Sharon</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, I do.  You can send me an email at <a href="mailto:sharonsopinion@nobshyip.net">sharonsopinion@nobshyip.net</a> .  Also, if you&#8217;re not on Jude&#8217;s mailing list, sign up.  From there you&#8217;ll receive the information to get to Jude&#8217;s portfolio, where he has his recommendations listed.</p>
<p>Another resource that I recommend is HYIP101.  It includes an excellent book on HYIPs, a very good list of programs, a forum with lots of expertise that will answer any question, and a bunch of bonuses.  You can look into HYIP101 at <a href="http://www.hyip101.com/go.php?r=686." rel="nofollow">http://www.hyip101.com/go.php?r=686.</a></p>
<p>Good luck!<br />
- Sharon</p>
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		<title>By: gloria</title>
		<link>http://hyipblog.nobshyip.net/2006/12/27/alien-trust-and-you-think-the-dust-have-settled/#comment-41617</link>
		<author>gloria</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Feb 2007 17:57:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://hyipblog.nobshyip.net/2006/12/27/alien-trust-and-you-think-the-dust-have-settled/#comment-41617</guid>
		<description>thanks for the advice.  any programs you recomend?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thanks for the advice.  any programs you recomend?</p>
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		<title>By: sharonsopinon</title>
		<link>http://hyipblog.nobshyip.net/2006/12/27/alien-trust-and-you-think-the-dust-have-settled/#comment-41615</link>
		<author>sharonsopinon</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Feb 2007 17:47:46 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://hyipblog.nobshyip.net/2006/12/27/alien-trust-and-you-think-the-dust-have-settled/#comment-41615</guid>
		<description>HI Gloria,

This is a good lesson for getting your initial investment out ASAP.  Also, take some of the profits out along the way.  Yes, you'll earn less than compounding 100%, but you won't lose as much when they close.  Even better is going in one time with a big spend, then moving on to the next program.  Just make sure that you're hitting programs that are actually paying.  Timing is everything.

Please remember that high yield = high risk.  Unrealistic earnings means that the program will close sooner, rather than later.  It's rare that you'll recieve any kind of refund and even rarer that you'll see any of your money if government gets involved.  All of these programs have a clause about not being responsible if you lose.  Therefore, you have to be responsible for getting your profits out early.

JMO,
Sharon</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>HI Gloria,</p>
<p>This is a good lesson for getting your initial investment out ASAP.  Also, take some of the profits out along the way.  Yes, you&#8217;ll earn less than compounding 100%, but you won&#8217;t lose as much when they close.  Even better is going in one time with a big spend, then moving on to the next program.  Just make sure that you&#8217;re hitting programs that are actually paying.  Timing is everything.</p>
<p>Please remember that high yield = high risk.  Unrealistic earnings means that the program will close sooner, rather than later.  It&#8217;s rare that you&#8217;ll recieve any kind of refund and even rarer that you&#8217;ll see any of your money if government gets involved.  All of these programs have a clause about not being responsible if you lose.  Therefore, you have to be responsible for getting your profits out early.</p>
<p>JMO,<br />
Sharon</p>
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		<title>By: gloria</title>
		<link>http://hyipblog.nobshyip.net/2006/12/27/alien-trust-and-you-think-the-dust-have-settled/#comment-41590</link>
		<author>gloria</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Feb 2007 15:54:56 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://hyipblog.nobshyip.net/2006/12/27/alien-trust-and-you-think-the-dust-have-settled/#comment-41590</guid>
		<description>i can't beleive how he suckered us all in. he had everyone beleiving that he was on the up and up and that he had it all together. i thought that this site would last a log time so i just kept reinvesting everything and never took a dime out. he now has over 5,000 dollars of mine that i will never see. how can any one with a heart take peoples money and not think it was wrong!!!!   i hope he can sleep at night. he says he is married. does his wife know what he does for a living?  ripping people off. if she does she is just as quilty as he is,   sorry!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i can&#8217;t beleive how he suckered us all in. he had everyone beleiving that he was on the up and up and that he had it all together. i thought that this site would last a log time so i just kept reinvesting everything and never took a dime out. he now has over 5,000 dollars of mine that i will never see. how can any one with a heart take peoples money and not think it was wrong!!!!   i hope he can sleep at night. he says he is married. does his wife know what he does for a living?  ripping people off. if she does she is just as quilty as he is,   sorry!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Josh</title>
		<link>http://hyipblog.nobshyip.net/2006/12/27/alien-trust-and-you-think-the-dust-have-settled/#comment-38701</link>
		<author>Josh</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Feb 2007 23:39:21 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://hyipblog.nobshyip.net/2006/12/27/alien-trust-and-you-think-the-dust-have-settled/#comment-38701</guid>
		<description>I just got a 1099 from them.  They reported our "earnings" to the IRS.  I got a 1099 form from them.  $33,000  in "earnings".  I was paid a few grand, but I put back 95% if not 99% back for compounding.  I plan on following up with the IRS to ensure that :

a) ensure this was actually reported, and
b) see what kind of fraud claims can be submitted.

BTW, The information on the IRS form 1099-misc is:

W3MA, LLC
2629 Plaza Pkwy, Suite A4
Wichita Falls, TX 76308
940-463-2891
Payer's FIN:  57-4641094

I did a search for w3ma and got this:

http://ecpa.cpa.state.tx.us/coa/servlet/cpa.app.coa.CoaGetTp?Pg=tpid&#38;Search_Nm=w3ma &#38;Button=search&#38;Search_ID=32019412843

They had the nerve to actually send the IRS the tax info.  They are thorough scammers.  Thank GOD I used mostly compounded earnings.  But still, I will give them a lot of credit.

Actually, I believe these guys run SEVERAL scams simultaneously.  They run one or two "trustworthy" ones and surround them with several mini scams.  All of them look "legit" of course.  But in the end, they were all SCAM.  These guys (or gals) are PROFESSIONALS!

But we should have known better because of the earnings.  Not to say the earnings are impossible in the real world, but it is very tough.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just got a 1099 from them.  They reported our &#8220;earnings&#8221; to the IRS.  I got a 1099 form from them.  $33,000  in &#8220;earnings&#8221;.  I was paid a few grand, but I put back 95% if not 99% back for compounding.  I plan on following up with the IRS to ensure that :</p>
<p>a) ensure this was actually reported, and<br />
b) see what kind of fraud claims can be submitted.</p>
<p>BTW, The information on the IRS form 1099-misc is:</p>
<p>W3MA, LLC<br />
2629 Plaza Pkwy, Suite A4<br />
Wichita Falls, TX 76308<br />
940-463-2891<br />
Payer&#8217;s FIN:  57-4641094</p>
<p>I did a search for w3ma and got this:</p>
<p><a href="http://ecpa.cpa.state.tx.us/coa/servlet/cpa.app.coa.CoaGetTp?Pg=tpid&amp;Search_Nm=w3ma" rel="nofollow">http://ecpa.cpa.state.tx.us/coa/servlet/cpa.app.coa.CoaGetTp?Pg=tpid&amp;Search_Nm=w3ma</a> &amp;Button=search&amp;Search_ID=32019412843</p>
<p>They had the nerve to actually send the IRS the tax info.  They are thorough scammers.  Thank GOD I used mostly compounded earnings.  But still, I will give them a lot of credit.</p>
<p>Actually, I believe these guys run SEVERAL scams simultaneously.  They run one or two &#8220;trustworthy&#8221; ones and surround them with several mini scams.  All of them look &#8220;legit&#8221; of course.  But in the end, they were all SCAM.  These guys (or gals) are PROFESSIONALS!</p>
<p>But we should have known better because of the earnings.  Not to say the earnings are impossible in the real world, but it is very tough.</p>
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		<title>By: GLENN</title>
		<link>http://hyipblog.nobshyip.net/2006/12/27/alien-trust-and-you-think-the-dust-have-settled/#comment-31569</link>
		<author>GLENN</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Dec 2006 16:30:22 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://hyipblog.nobshyip.net/2006/12/27/alien-trust-and-you-think-the-dust-have-settled/#comment-31569</guid>
		<description>I KNOW I PUT IN MONEY FROM VM ON JUNE 9TH THAT HE POSTED AFTER THE JUNE 16TH BLOW UP THAT I HAVE NEVER RECIEVED $1 BACK ON.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I KNOW I PUT IN MONEY FROM VM ON JUNE 9TH THAT HE POSTED AFTER THE JUNE 16TH BLOW UP THAT I HAVE NEVER RECIEVED $1 BACK ON.</p>
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		<title>By: GLENN</title>
		<link>http://hyipblog.nobshyip.net/2006/12/27/alien-trust-and-you-think-the-dust-have-settled/#comment-31568</link>
		<author>GLENN</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Dec 2006 16:27:37 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://hyipblog.nobshyip.net/2006/12/27/alien-trust-and-you-think-the-dust-have-settled/#comment-31568</guid>
		<description>I KNOW HE GOT SOME OF MY MONEY &#38; POSTED AN UPGRADE THAT WENT IN ON JUNE 9TH ACCORDING TO VM- THAT HE PUT IN AFTER THE JUNE 16TH BLOW UP, &#38; I HAVE NOT GOT $1 BACK</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I KNOW HE GOT SOME OF MY MONEY &amp; POSTED AN UPGRADE THAT WENT IN ON JUNE 9TH ACCORDING TO VM- THAT HE PUT IN AFTER THE JUNE 16TH BLOW UP, &amp; I HAVE NOT GOT $1 BACK</p>
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		<title>By: Bad Mamma J Dollars</title>
		<link>http://hyipblog.nobshyip.net/2006/12/27/alien-trust-and-you-think-the-dust-have-settled/#comment-30077</link>
		<author>Bad Mamma J Dollars</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Dec 2006 01:23:24 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://hyipblog.nobshyip.net/2006/12/27/alien-trust-and-you-think-the-dust-have-settled/#comment-30077</guid>
		<description>Scammers are thefts on the web.  They have no decency, no moral, remorse or a heart.  They think they can't be found in their secret lil worlds.  Good job digging them up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Scammers are thefts on the web.  They have no decency, no moral, remorse or a heart.  They think they can&#8217;t be found in their secret lil worlds.  Good job digging them up.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul</title>
		<link>http://hyipblog.nobshyip.net/2006/12/27/alien-trust-and-you-think-the-dust-have-settled/#comment-29810</link>
		<author>Paul</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Dec 2006 20:12:53 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://hyipblog.nobshyip.net/2006/12/27/alien-trust-and-you-think-the-dust-have-settled/#comment-29810</guid>
		<description>This came just to my mind: Vince forced all of us us to purchase a VM Card and which we are most probably now using. He is pissing himself as he is still earning from us!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This came just to my mind: Vince forced all of us us to purchase a VM Card and which we are most probably now using. He is pissing himself as he is still earning from us!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: ValcaInvest.com</title>
		<link>http://hyipblog.nobshyip.net/2006/12/27/alien-trust-and-you-think-the-dust-have-settled/#comment-29379</link>
		<author>ValcaInvest.com</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Dec 2006 13:30:15 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://hyipblog.nobshyip.net/2006/12/27/alien-trust-and-you-think-the-dust-have-settled/#comment-29379</guid>
		<description>It's amazing how someone in the United States can get away with ripping off people for 100's of thousands of dollars if not more and continue to operate new websites in order to rip off even more money.

Angel
ValcaInvest Autosurf Monitor
http://www.valcainvest.com
A new and unique perspective in paid to surf monitoring</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s amazing how someone in the United States can get away with ripping off people for 100&#8217;s of thousands of dollars if not more and continue to operate new websites in order to rip off even more money.</p>
<p>Angel<br />
ValcaInvest Autosurf Monitor<br />
<a href="http://www.valcainvest.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.valcainvest.com</a><br />
A new and unique perspective in paid to surf monitoring</p>
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