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Feb 26th 2007
If you read the latest JPD update, Richard mentions that he has a friend that is about to run with a ton of money. I know that people are going to speculate as to which program he is talking about. Here is a place to voice your speculation. (BTW, Jude strongly believe that it is NOT Dan at Life Holdings. Please don’t panic about LH, it should be fine.)
JMO,
Sharon
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I just spoke with Jude, to clear some issues about the latest speculations going around.
Richard is clearly referring to a “hyip with a good script”, probably heavily advertised on major forums as well.
And as you well know, Life Holdings has no good script, ok, no script whatsoever.
Regards,
Dan
Nice comment, Dan! Thank you!
So far, I’ve heard speculating about U-Pie and Invest-Please. I’m not in either of these, so I don’t know. But, they sound like they might fit the desciption.
JMO,
Sharon
U-PIE and Please-Invest are my picks for the “I’m gonna run the next” award.
Hmmm…. why are we believing a scammer that loves the idea of keeping people in mental toucher.
Don’t believe anything he says, I bet he is just playing with peoples’ heads. He seems to get off on this kind of thing–let’s see what else I can do to make people behave like I want them to.
HYIPs come and go, we all know this. Except I know this for a painful fact now.
There are good HYIPs, I think Jude has some excellent ones in his portfolio. I also like Earn By Loaning (I am in this one at the moment). But from now on, invest sensibly and you will not have to worry too much.
If Please Invest runs I loose nothing, I got my dollar back, LOL! U-PIE, I never liked this one.
I’m sure U-PIE will be the one going away. “Voltaire” has ran other hyips in the past with other aliases and all they gone away after taking thousands with.
I have to agree with nelsonN,
i too believe that richard just wants to create mayhem by issuing such a statement.. all those programs mentioned should be considered gambles (as most) but speculating based on a scammers words is a bit foolish …
I have Richard’s DD details, and I am honestly tired of watching this 19 year old kid lose hundreds of thousands of dollars and act like it was no big deal.
There were a few individual heavy hitters that would probably be very interested in your DD info, jor.
It’s an unfortunate fact in HYIPLand that most of the people who lose money to scammers aren’t in a financial position to go after these bastards and bring them to justice.
A lot of people see life holdings as a copycat of the very successfull JPdaily. I am prety sure Dan is a good blackjack player for years and that he came up with the idea of life holdings thanks to the success of JPdaily. I think if anyone can be disappointed about Richard it must be Dan. Richard was his good example, his teacher, but now Richard prooved he was the student instead and that he could learn from Dan, not the other way around.
Life Holdings doesnt even have 1/100th of deposits, JPdaily had. Now a lot of people will distrust sites that claim they can make a profit with poker/blackjack. The real victim for Richards lies will be Dan. Many will surely accuse Dan to be Richard as well. I am sorry you have to go through all this Dan. What people doesnt realize however is that money can be made with gambling. There are professional poker and blackjack players making hundred thousands of profits each year. Sadly for us Richard was just one of many amateur, someone who is so full of lies that he started to believe his own lies were true.
newearth, The ods something dies in its first year of existance is 80%. Of all the sites I monitored since begin 2006, over 80% no longer exist. And that over a lifespan of 1 year only! From the 20% that still exists, 10% was launched in 2006, 10% was launched in 2005 and 1% was launched in 2004.
All the rest simply died one way or another. And I am talking LYIP’s here, NOT HYIP’s!!! Until last year I always believed LYIP’s were less risky than HYIP’s. And yes they are, HYIP’s lifespan is average 3 months, LYIP’s lifespan is average 6 months but the returns are 4-5x less. These are shocking facts. Now does this mean LYIP’s cannot last very long? No, but the majority of LYIP’s are hidden ponzi’s instead of sustainable opportunities. And thats the main problem. If a LYIP does what it claims it does, 90% of the LYIP’s would be sustainable and have a lifespan of 2 years. But the average LYIP admin lies or is very imcompetent. It cuts the lifespan of LYIP’s into many little pieces.
Makila,
You raise some excellent points! It just goes to prove why I’ve moved from HYIP games to programs that have an outside income source. Having a professional gambler, like Dan at Life Holdings, as the outside income source is as good as any other outside income source. As long as the outside income source is legal and the admin is good at making it gain, then it doesn’t really matter to investors what it is. Although, the investors should know what it is.
I was only in JPD because of the GGI refund. I didn’t spend any new money, but I was hoping to get my old money out. I knew from GGI that Richard is very immature. It’s just too bad that he turned out to be such a big liar, too! (I really hate cussing and it is inexcusible for an admin to use cussing in an update. )
JMO,
Sharon
Jorhyne: Please share the DD information. Thanks!
You can read much more on :
http://www.dollarsblog.com/blog/
Going back to the topic: who is the big fish Richard is referring to..
I just have one thought to add: Why is launching his site on April 6th? A break? come on, if he could, he would start again tomorrow scamming everyone.
No very simple and it also proves that this one he is referring to is real: That “friend” with the same script as he is going to use, is going to close his own site (and scam his members) within that timespan. AFAIK, that is the only reason and im pretty sure about it. So Richard just doesnt want to screw up the friend :), lol.
Maybe he’s bipolar, and has multiple personalities. Maybe he’s his “friend”
Makila, you bring some very good points, but I must correct you. I opened Life Holdings due to my own success playing Blackjack at Betfair.
This was just another example of what happens when money management rules are not followed properly…otherwise he would have got his millions playing poker with his money in the first place.
Regards
Dan
And perhaps all is a big lie.
jorhyne, I personally don’t think he has 19 year old and for a repeated scammer it could be easy to forge documents (I tell by experience because once a scammer forged my signature). I think he’s much older. He plays as he lost the money but I’m sure he just planned to scam everybody since the very beginning. Remember: mysterious profits, poker-profits, sustainedreturns, gg-investments and now jp-daily. Why come back once and again with totally new websites? Also, in a lot of places they request that you are older than 18 in order to play poker with several thousand $$$; he started with mysterious-profits years ago so he is way older (unless he also lied about his age).
Anita,
Wasn’t goldgames.org his, too?
- Sharon
Yes Sharon, it was his too. Supposedly he sold it to another person last year.
I think Dan, at life holdings has his act together, and his plans are much bigger that playing blackjack at betfair, in fact he had mentioned plans for the near future, or when his money gets right. Gene :-))
HI Gene,
I think we all agree that it is definately NOT Life Holdings.
JMO,
Sharon