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An interview with the4xtraders administrator, Frank Ola.
Q: Hi Frank, thank you for taking your time to answer this interview questions.
Tell me more about yourself?
A. I’m an Information technology Professional and have worked in the field for quite sometime after I decided to take time off and exploit other avenues. I joined MLM few years back when I discover that someone could easily make money online, and my face became very popular along with few of my colleagues. I later got involved in auto surfs and hyips where I made some money and lost in most. I quickly got fed up with the whole industry mess; ponzi’s, scams, dishonest admins and many more. I figured it was right time for a change in this industry and I have setup The4xtraders for this purpose.
Q: Are you involved with any other programs before? List them if you have.
A. Yes, I have joined other MLM programs, auto surfs and hyips in the past. I just don’t join programs, I build HUGE down lines
Q: I remember your involvement with surfs before. What’s your view on them?
A: Stay away. Not all that Glitters are gold. 98% are GAMES
Q: Is there a team involved with the4xTraders?
A: Myself and My Partner. I take care of the admin part and he trades the funds
Since he’s more professional and experienced in trading forex
Q: Tell me more about your trader.
A: Here is an Interview someone conducted with my trader and I’ll like to share it with you
1. How long have you been trading?
A. Traded stocks for 9 yrs. and been doing forex for over 3 yrs. Now
2. How long have you been trading this present system?
A. I rely purely on Technical analysis. Although I know different systems used by other traders, I know none of them are perfect and so I use other systems just for actual confirmation. For example, if my own set of indicators does not agree 100% or somehow the signals don’t line up all at once, I then look at the other systems for further confirmation. This does not happen often but I do sometimes. I use standard indicators but my own settings or values and I also use the Elliott Wave principles to guide me on market direction.
3. Is this a robotic system?
A. If you mean like an EA. No it is not. I still have to read the chart and its indicators.
4. What kind of trading do you do (day, short, swing, etc.)? Do you use stops and otherwise keep losses to a minimum?
A. All of the above. I was first known as a scalper. Very high risk using the 1 minute chart. All traders try to keep any losses to a minimum.
5. What is your win percentage?
A. I have not done any checking of sorts so I cannot accurately give you an answer. As I said I do not treat what I do as a system. All I know is I won a lot more than I lose.
6. What is your maximum drawdown?
A. I am usually on the computer when I have open trades. If and when I know I am on a losing end of the trade I close it as soon
as possible as I know with what I do, I can always make it back and more on my next trades.7. What is the profit factor?
A. I take what the market gives or willing to give.
8. What percentage of capital is risked at any given time?
A. this depends on the crosses or how strong the signal my method is giving at the time and also on the size of the trading account.
9. If requested, are you willing to trade an account with a larger risk factor that is still within the range of comfort for you and not too high risk?
A. Of course.
10. Do you trade alone or do you have a team?
A. I trade alone.
11. Do you trade 24/7 or just specific hours?
A. I trade when I can. I usually make sure I am trading during peak hours of the European and US sessions. Due to my fatherly duties, I have 2 children; I could not really trade yesterday and being a Friday I thought I might as well take a day off although
12. How many managed accounts do you trade for at the same time?
A. I am only managing 3 accounts at this time but have turned down a few as I do not really have the time to trade effectively by having more accounts to trade. Logging in and out of accounts is not really conducive to profitable trading. My scalping nature prevents me from trading more managed account at this time :). I am willing to take you on only as a favor to Frank.
Q: Can I contact your trader to conduct an interview with him as well?
A. If you need more info other than the one above, you are welcome
Q: Can potential investors or the current members visit you if they have any queries about the4xTraders?
A. I strive to do everything with my best. This includes my site, the support I give my members, the way we process payments, and everything else we do. You will find no drama with The4x.
Q: Can I get hold of your Due Diligence documents and have them verified?
A. Yes, depending on what you are looking for
Q: Why did you start the4xTraders?
A. So that I can help redeem back the dying industry. Fed up with people scamming and all the garbage associated with. And most importantly create a real investment opportunity for those who can see the vision
Q: When did the4xTraders start?
A. We have the site online since Jan 17 but our first day of trade started Feb 1st
Q: Where do you see the4xTraders going in the future?
A. I believed the sky is the limit as long as we continue to do the right thing
Support Questions
Q: Do you engage a third party to design and manage your script?
A. Our site is custom and it was designed in house by my coder well simple for me to manage. We are hosted on a dedicated server with ssl certificate
Q: Is there any additional steps taken to secure members fund?
A. Our revenue source is through forex and just like every investment of this nature, there are always risks involved. Good thing our trader is taking extra measure to ensure investor’s money is safe as you see from his interview
Q: What Support Options do you offer your members?
A. Email support and Phone support when necessary
Q: Is there any plans to close your program or go private for new investors at anytime?
A. Yes, we do have a target and once it’s reached, we’ll go totally private for new investors. Invitation ONLY
Q: Do you provide your members with regular updates as to what is going on with the4xTraders?
A. Yes, I do and will continue to strive to do everything with excellence
Portfolio Questions
Q: Do you currently run any other sites/ programs?
A. No
Q: Are you a member of the CFTC or NFA?
A. I have no clue what this is all about
Q: Are track records available to investors?
A: We will be doing that quarterly now but will never fail to provide the investors the interest we promised unless anything change
Q: Which broker are you using for forex trading? Do they accept E-gold? If they don’t, isn’t there suppose to be a fee involved when it comes to in and out exchanging of funds? How
are you dealing with those issues (if any)?
A. Great Question about exchange; that has been a great concern. For now I have designated it as part of business expenses and if any change I will notify the entire membership. We use oanda
Q: Is it possible to allow me to look into your forex trading account with view permission?
A. To be fair to everyone, we have decided to post trading results quarterly now on our website for anyone to view. In the meantime, we’ll continue to publish the monthly % interest we paid to our investors on our site
Q: Does the trader have any sort of trading system to ensure the returns or at least with the risk minimized? If yes, describe in details
A. The Question was already answered in detail inside the tell me about your trader section
Q: Is there a reserved fund established?
A. Yes. Our first, though the shortest month was good and we are able to establish a good reserve amount in the case of raining day. We are hoping we’ll continue to have great months and there wouldn’t be any cause for an alarm
Withdrawal Questions
Q: Is there any lock-in period on members’ fund?
A. Yes for 30 days. We decided to keep it this way to make everyone comfortable even though 98% prefer to keep their funds compounding for a good period of time
Q: Is E-gold the only option to withdraw?
A. No, We have other methods like Pay pal, Alert pay, safe pay and Bank wires for bigger amounts
Miscellaneous Questions
Q: Would you like to add anything else?
A. I have answered your questions to the best of my knowledge and may notify again if anything change. Quote “You can have a brilliant idea but if you can’t get them across, your
ideas won’t get you anywhere” Lee lacoca
Thank you for your time
I’ll follow up shortly with a review should Frank agrees with our checklist. And should there be further questions to this interview, do comment so we could get more information from him. Cheers.
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Be careful with this program.
Judging by the interview, the trader is inexperienced.
Every serious trader knows that money management is one of the most important aspects of trading. This trader does not use a standard % of account when trading. That means at times he will take un-necessary risks.
The trader has supposedly been trading for three years but has not taken the time to know what his profit factor is. You can not come up with a responsible money management scheme unless you know what your profit factor is.
Judging by the answer to the question of what draw downs could we expect, the trader didn’t even understand the question. Again a sign of inexperience.
The Program admin and the trader may have the best of intentions, but judging by what I have read, a bad month could wipe out a whole account.
Best wishes
Paul
Future will tell if this program gonna shine but this interview looks very much like the interview done with one of the staff members from PIU(private investment union). They told in an interview they were sick of the soo many scams and con artists online and that they launched their site to make a difference, and to give online investors something they could rely on. And what did PIU did? They simply scammed theirself. So why would this site be any different? Sorry for being so sceptical but if I am not insane sceptical my money would vanish like snow at an insane rapid speed. At the start of every year Hyipers and admins claims this and that site gonna be different. At the end of the year on average 1 site really does make a difference, all the rest will have gone down the drain.
I am not here to make or break this site or to judge it. I wasnt wanna make people aware of the risks. As for now, I consider this site a risk and unless I know more about the admins I will consider it as a game. Good luck to those investing in this new opportunity
Agree with Paul. The trader comes across as very inexperienced. Besides this, my requests for due diligence information a month back were not honored.
1. You clearly state using Oanda as your broker but your 2 page statement on your website is from Interbank Fx…
Can you post additional statements, but from Oanda this time?
2. Your trader seems great, yet I don’t understand why he can’t figure out if he makes 300% or 500% profit in one month (as shown in that statement of yours). A trader with 9 years of trading experience will know that….
3. From your interview, your trader is not protecting an incredible trading system or anything of that kind. Letting Jude login in your Oanda or Interbank FX account for a quick look will score high on the credibility list.
Dan
No audit, no trust.
Short sentense but very well said Katz. But how many forex programs let Jude audit the account? The 2 in his portfolo? I guess thats it.
The rest tries to bullshit no bullshit blog lol.
I’ was very hesistant initially to do a review of the4xtraders but I finally agreed to go along with Jude. Everyone here is entiltle to their own different opinions especially in a open forum like nobullshit but we own the facts.
I’m not looking to rock the internet with the4x and you can read from the site. I have a set goal and once it’s reached, I will even appeal to jude to take away the review from this blog. It’s ok that many of you are so quick to judge the trader and the program being what they do best.
Bottomline, If I can see folks who are serious and have something to bring to the table other than judging, then I’ll be more than willing to show some more cards and even introduce my trader to answer some of you guys concern
Thanks
frank
Hey Frank,
Please forgive us being very sceptic and jump the gun fairly quickly but its the nature of experienced Hyipers to be sceptical. If we werent sceptic, we wouldnt needed Judes blog in the first place trying to weed out the scams amongst them. Every person on this blog have been scammed one way or another in the past, and I bet even you were scammed before. most often by an admin that claimed to be honest. Every single month there are sites claiming to do something against the frauds and scams on the net, just to scam theirself instead and laugh us out in our face for being so easy minded. We were promised the world 1000 times and scammed 1000 times. With the rise of forex trading last year(a violent but sustainable business IF the traders are good) and proper DD being done people believed things were finally going to change and that we were going to win the battle against scammers. But scammers and incompetent trader outsmarted us bloggers were unexperienced and posted good reviews about scams/bad traders that submitted fake or incomplete DD. Last year was supposed to be the year of changes, but in the end nothing has changed. Even worse. Ironically, I got the impression 2006 was the worst scam year ever. It was just another year in scam-land. Only 2 forex sites I know survived from all the forex sites launched in the first half of last year. Sadly for scammers just as they get smarter, so does the average Hyiper. Since the disaster last year, bloggers teached their lesson and if your site is an obvious ponzi you wont even make it to an interview anymore with the blog owners. I assume as you managed to get an interview done here at Judes blog, then it means Jude must have some faith in your program else you wouldnt even come close to an interview at all(unless the owner admits running a ponzi and wants to do an interview about it). I would like to see some real audits in the future as well tough. We really DO need some reliable honest programs, something thats still lacking. Which is really not a great result at all. I do hope your site will be another one I can add to my very small portfolio in the near future.
I am new to Hyip land and I guess I paid my dues as I too have been scammed as Makila mentioned. I read the interview and the different comments and found it very interesting. Maybe the experienced Hyipers can advise me as to how to identify a good Hyip program and guide me to some of the time tested Hypi programs.
Hi Neil,
I use the information I purchased at HYIP101. (My ref link is http://www.hyip101.com/go.php?r=686) It includes a well written guide, a quick sheet for calculating a site evaluation, a forum with expert advice and several other bonuses.
However, there is a ton of free infomation available, too. Check out the long list of blogs in the right-side column. When Jude launches his forum, I consolidated links to all of the advice articles on NoBSHYIP Blog (over 100!) in 3 threads. I’m adding advice articles from other blogs as time permits. In addition, if you sign up with Jude’s mailing list, you get access to his portfolio, which is really good. I also have a mailing list with HYIP information, too. Email me at sharonsopinion@nobshyip.net
Stay away from the forums and rating sites, except to get the latest on whether a site is paying or not. Forums are also good for getting updates. However, do not believe every thing you read (good or bad). Take what an admin says with a grain of salt. Use multiple resources for input. Always remember that playing in the HYIP world is NOT an investment, it is gambling. As such, decide how much you’re going to play with and don’t spend over that amount.
Good luck to you and welcome to the wonderful world of HYIP!
- Sharon
Hi Niel,
Welcome to the wild and wooly world of HYIP. There a many people who will give you lots of advise. In my opinion most is limited at best.
The best advice I can give is something I’m sure you have already seen many times. That is to only use money you can afford to lose.
The second piece of advice and in my opinion the most important piece of advice is to keep your greed in check.
We all have dreams of getting rich with in HYIP. The chances are very slim of that ever happening. But if you limit your risk by only putting small portions of yours total investment portfolio in any one investment, you will do great. Especially if take a long term view of the market.
Last piece of advice is to never believe anything told you by an admin that can not be verified.
Just assume any program you are looking at is a ponzi unless the admin can prove otherwise.
Generally there are only a few types of investments that lend themselves to hyip.
You are at the right place. There are a good group of people who hang out on this blog. Jude does a good job or reporting.
Best wishes
Paul
This may be a shock to you but **never** believe a MEMBER of the hyip community unless :
1. They dont earn on you by referring you to the site. When someone tells you to join a site and they give you a ref link its more likely the member is simply a greedy ref whore who just cares about their own money. ITs YOU that ask for a ref link, NOT the member proposing you to a site! I admit I also have 3000 euro in refs in xxx but I never send people my ref link unless they ask me for it.
2. Be sure the member of the community is NOT the admin in disguise or one of his/her friends. It’s hard to proof whether they are or they are not tough.
Other things you have to keep in mind :
- The return must be low. Preferably under 10% a month(NEVER over 20%)
If returns are unrealisticly high its a ponzi, period. (Of course an admin can claim they give 20% return, but due to fees, reinvesting, special formulars and so on their real return is only 8% or so lol, or they give a huge % as a BONUS and will lower it somewhere down the road)
- Be suspicious when someone claims that a site is 5 years old and they tell you : Check the domain at whois! First of all domains can be bought, that doesnt mean the site is that old. There are some that are older than 5 years sure, but dont believe it just by checking the domain.
- Be suspicious when a site claims they are registered at the government. On the contrary, A LEGIT, honest site avoids the government at all costs. They try to stay under the radar, so any site claiming to have theirself registered at the government is *crap*. If a site registers it will be at the BVI, Panama , Ecuador, but *surely* never with the government.
- Forex Sites that never post a negative % are either using a special formular to calculate earnings or they are posting fake digits.
- When a trader shows you proof they have a tradersaccount be aware that there is a difference in possessing a trading account and to be good in trading. Anyone can open a trading account. That doesnt mean they can trade. Even my grandmother can open a trading account and she can even show you a picture of a very profitable trade she has done!(just keep trading until you have a positive result by PURE gambling, then take a screenshot and send it to you…very very easy LOL)
There are a lot fo other things you have to keep in mind before investing, and maybe what I say may disencourage you from investing online. I can tell you…it all comes down to experience. Its important to have your sources that can guide you into choosing the right site but in the end its you that need to make a proper judgement. Start with spending small pocket money, practice and learn! Thats the best advise I can give you. Its possible to earn a lot online but the more experience you have, the more chance you indeed will make a profit(altough its not a guarantee)
Now why would you invest online? Isnt it easier to invest offline? Yes it is. But…an online investment is like having a job without reporting it to the tax office. Because really…its rare an investor online reports their earnings. This means your gross profit online = your net profit and there is NO offline investment that can give you a 6-10% return a month NET profit. Now the second question is…if offline investment dont give you that % is it sustainable? The answer is : YES. Traders offline DO get these kind of profits, but offline expenses are TONS higher than online expenses, so the net profit will be drained more offline.
Conclusions : Investing online is HIGH risk. But if you find the right site that does work(there are some, but they are *sadly* very very *rare*), you will earn twice as much as you would do with the same money offline.
Good luck!
Thank Sharon but I don’t think I will be spending money for someone to give me advise, not when there are persons like Makila and Paul around. By the way I tried sending you an email but there is something wrong with your mailing address. But thanks much for the welcome and the additional advice.
Paul, good advice…….. seem to be hearing them quite often though, by the way what does money you can afford to lose look like, I would love to see some (smile) But I understand what you mean, thanks.
Makila you do have a lot of advise to give and I am grateful. When I discovered HYIP I saw it as an opportunity to make some money online with little effort. Didn’t expect it would be so much work trying to figure out which HYIPs are the good ones. These web sites are so well done and look so professional. Its amazing what people will do the rip you off.
I found a site that said good HYIP sites usually have a mailing address, phone number and email address instead of an email address only and they usually have multiply payment methods not just e-gold. So I have been making a list of HYIP sites with these two things. I also have been using that site (http://www.whois.sc), it allows you to do a domain check which give the registered information about the site.
The problem is the list I have is very short, so since nobody mention some HYIP names or web site, I am asking again for persons to tell me. Makila you said you don’t send unless someone asks, well I am asking. I will look at them and make my own judgment. Not admin please. My email address is (removed for safety) (put hyipblog in the subject line please).
Hi Neil,
I can’t say as I blame you for not paying for info. (I just wanted to let you know about something I found useful.) There is a lot of free advice that is really good. Just keep accumulating advice that you find and like. (I had some in the last paragraph in my post above.)
In addition to using multiple sources of information, even for advice, never be afraid to ask questions. The only stupid question is the one not asked. There are an awful lot of really good people in the HYIP world that are willing to help anyone that wants help (without expecting/wanting anything in return.) And to add to Makila’s post, don’t feel obligated to use someone’s ref link, just because they introduced you to it. You may find that you’d like a different upline better.
When you find criteria, like e-gold others or real mailing address, don’t just use them as a hard and fast rule. There are some e-gold only that are good and some with real address information, that is fake. This goes for other criteria, too. Nothing is a hard and fast rule, when it comes to HYIP.
When you find a program you like, do a google search on both the program name and on the admin’s name. Read what you find. Also read all of the fine print on the site. Some information, which may come back to bite you, may be buried in the terms of service or member agreement.
I’ve put out a couple of advice articles this year. If you click on my name as author under an article, it’s easier to page back and find them.
I removed your email address for security reasons. You should never post your email address on a public blog or forum. There are programs that do nothing but scrape public sites looking for email addresses. You may wonder why I post my nobs address. It is because the only thing I use it for is this blog. Because, I’ve posted it, I get a lot of spam and phishing emails. Since I know it’s only for blog info, it’s easy to just delete everything else. It’s also a good idea to use different email address for different puproses. For example, use one email address for e-currencies and don’t use that one for anything else. (I fixed my address in the earlier post. For some reason, it added the period at the end to the address, so I just removed the period.)
What I can do for you is have anyone wanting to contact Neil email me. I will forward the email to you. You can decide if you want to contact them. No, I won’t use the email addresses for any other purpose nor will I ever give away or sell it to anyone. Would that be OK?
I wish you very good luck in your HYIP ventures! HYIP playing is a lot of fun, but it does take time to do it right.
JMO - Sharon
Ok guys what do you think about this idea - Banks place excess funds into Overnight investments. Funds are returned the following day plus interest. I have seen interest rates ranging from 2.5% to 8% with a minimum deposit amount of US$100,000 (maybe there is a smaller minimum required amount). This kind of transaction is usually done between two institutions, but what if a group of persons came together much like HYIPs do and started an Overnight investment fund. This would be much safer and the daily returns wouldn’t be too bad. Is this even possible, can something like this be done? or maybe its just me and my naive and crazy imagination.
Hi Neil,
Hmmmm…. I’ve never heard of an overnight investment. Don’t investments take time, besides day trading stocks, options, forex, etc. or gambling? I’ve never had a spare $100K for investing, so I’m not qualified to answer. I do know that there are plenty of offline and private investment opportunities that I know nothing about. It’s an interesting question to ponder.
So how about it, folks? Does anyone know if there are real overnight investments, not counting day trading and/or gambling?
Thanks,
Sharon
Never heard of them and even if there is, a normal HYIP wouldn’t have access to them so easily. I’ve heard of PPP (Private Placements) which does exist and its not easy to get in as well.
Requirements are stringent, and unless you’re associated to banks/ government in big ways, there’s no way to get that kind of returns with overnight investments/ PPPs.
Hi Niel,
There is nothing wrong with paying for advice, especially if the advice comes from a good source. BTW HYIP101 is a good source.
It just stands to reason that if you don’t want to go through the learning curve that most go through, you will want to learn from someone who knows what they are doing. Unfortunately, with free advice, you never know how good the advice really is.
There is tons of misinformaion floating around stated as fact. People aren’t purposefully misleading you, but are only repeating what someone told them.
Take your time, get educated. Your education will come fast by purchasing a good maunal. Your education will come slowly if you try to find all the information yourself.
Good luck
Hi Sharon,
I have been doing this stuff for more than 7 years now. I can say with 99.9% cofidence that overnight investments do not exists for the internet investor.
There is a way someone might do it if they had some descent financial backing, but they would have to explain their system to me before I would trust it.
Bottom line.
If you run into a program that says they can get you a legitimate return in one day and you are investing via ecurrency, ask them two questions:
-1 How do you make your returns.
If they give you any of the typical answers. (Forex, stocks,futures,realestate,) they are lieing.
-2 how is it that you can pay a return on a one day investment when it takes at least 4 days to move money in and out of ecurrencies.
Best wishes
Paul
Neilo wrote : found a site that said good HYIP sites usually have a mailing address, phone number and email address instead of an email address only and they usually have multiply payment methods not just e-gold.
100%…WRONG. A lot of honest admin’s dont post their real life address for everyone to view, because they like their privacy. They will most often send DD packages to a few trusted entities online and they will have all their real life data then. If an admin is honest its most of the time easy to track them down and find their real life data however. They have nothing to hide and if you manage to capture their FULL name and country they are located at and check the phonebooks you probably may find their info in there.
Most sites that put their real address out there phonenumber, are scammers instead, Its not so hard to buy a postoffice a-like box but with a full address attached to it somewhere in the middle of rimbababalaba. Its also not hard to buy a phonenumber that redirects to your number but which is in fact NOT your real number. You PAY for such service, companies DELIVER.
You see…if you think that a site is legit because of reason X or reason Y, scammers also think this. So they will now copy reason X or Y to make you believe they are real. You may think you are smart, but scammers will think the same and outsmart you. Thats a golden tip I can give you!!
There is no specific reason why a site may be legit or not. Every reason can be abused. I dont wanna disencourage you but thats the way it goes…
E-gold only sites could just as well be real and sites offering multiple payment methods. Admins can easily transfer the money from e-gold to their bankaccount and/or trading platforms. But one hint. Forex sites that are honest and let you pay through e-gold most often have very HIGH fees. Why? Because it is expensive to transfer money from e-gold to a good trading platform. The best trading platforms online don’t accept e-gold.
To judge an admin’s honesty you always need to make a huge list as why they could be real and another huge list as why they could be a scam. Compared both list and then make your own judgement on this. This requires a lot of experience and even then its still a gamble sometimes.
Hi Frank, with regards to the interview, you answered
Quote:
“Q: Do you engage a third party to design and manage your script?
A. Our site is custom and it was designed in house by my coder well simple for me to manage. We are hosted on a dedicated server with ssl certificate”
If this is so and the fact that you mentioned you do not have any other sites, can you explain why your site look so similar to www.fmsinvest.co.uk? Any ideas anyone? Some copycat site?
It’s really similar Frank, might wanna answer Archsage’s question.
G’Day Everyone,
Very interesting discussions here. To answer your question archsage, there is a difference I believed between a template and a script. Anyone can buy a template and integrate a script within. Just like so many hyips out there use same GC script but different templates other than the one provided by GC
The script is what is actually running the program and not a template. To see the difference btw us and fms, look and see how the backends looks like. I bought the template from hypertemplates.com which fms may have also but my programmer developed the script and integrate the template
Thanks
frank
Ok, I did some checking and spoke to a friend in the finance field. There is actually such a thing called overnight investment, but it is only done between financial institutions, not individuals. I wasn’t suggesting that there is such a thing as overnight investment on the internet, I was simply asking
Seems you are posting on a wrong thread NeilO
frank
Hi Neil,
Yes, overnight interest program is only available to Institution. My guess is they need a lot more than 100K as well.
Best wishes
Paul
all investments are risky, i will take my chances.
don’t let me down frank, unless you don’t want a good feedback.
Hi Frank,
I’m curious. How do you guarantee a set amount of profits trading on the forex market each month. I have been trading for over 4 years and there is no way to say with any type of certainty what you will make from month to month.
Most Forex brokers have a reporting feature that will allow you generate a report of all trades taken during a certain period. Are you willing to share that report with us.
I realize the report can be faked, but it can still give us a general idea of the validity of your traders trading.
Thanks
I agree that the trader’s replies were too vague to engender trust. After the club-fx disaster, I’d be too wary about traders not wanting to show their trading statement for verification purposes.
BTW, what’s your take on Club-FX, Paul? I’m curious to know if you think its admin was running a real forex-based program and that his claim about his e-gold account being hacked deserved to be believed.
TIA for your reply.