BTW, what’s your take on Club-FX, Paul? I’m curious to know if you think its admin was running a real forex-based program and that his claim about his e-gold account being hacked deserved to be believed.

TIA for your reply.

I’m curious. How do you guarantee a set amount of profits trading on the forex market each month. I have been trading for over 4 years and there is no way to say with any type of certainty what you will make from month to month.

Most Forex brokers have a reporting feature that will allow you generate a report of all trades taken during a certain period. Are you willing to share that report with us.

I realize the report can be faked, but it can still give us a general idea of the validity of your traders trading.

Thanks

Yes, overnight interest program is only available to Institution. My guess is they need a lot more than 100K as well.

Best wishes
Paul

frank

Very interesting discussions here. To answer your question archsage, there is a difference I believed between a template and a script. Anyone can buy a template and integrate a script within. Just like so many hyips out there use same GC script but different templates other than the one provided by GC

The script is what is actually running the program and not a template. To see the difference btw us and fms, look and see how the backends looks like. I bought the template from hypertemplates.com which fms may have also but my programmer developed the script and integrate the template

Thanks

frank

Quote:
“Q: Do you engage a third party to design and manage your script?

A. Our site is custom and it was designed in house by my coder well simple for me to manage. We are hosted on a dedicated server with ssl certificate”

If this is so and the fact that you mentioned you do not have any other sites, can you explain why your site look so similar to http://www.fmsinvest.co.uk? Any ideas anyone? Some copycat site?

To judge an admin’s honesty you always need to make a huge list as why they could be real and another huge list as why they could be a scam. Compared both list and then make your own judgement on this. This requires a lot of experience and even then its still a gamble sometimes.

100%…WRONG. A lot of honest admin’s dont post their real life address for everyone to view, because they like their privacy. They will most often send DD packages to a few trusted entities online and they will have all their real life data then. If an admin is honest its most of the time easy to track them down and find their real life data however. They have nothing to hide and if you manage to capture their FULL name and country they are located at and check the phonebooks you probably may find their info in there.

Most sites that put their real address out there phonenumber, are scammers instead, Its not so hard to buy a postoffice a-like box but with a full address attached to it somewhere in the middle of rimbababalaba. Its also not hard to buy a phonenumber that redirects to your number but which is in fact NOT your real number. You PAY for such service, companies DELIVER.

You see…if you think that a site is legit because of reason X or reason Y, scammers also think this. So they will now copy reason X or Y to make you believe they are real. You may think you are smart, but scammers will think the same and outsmart you. Thats a golden tip I can give you!!
There is no specific reason why a site may be legit or not. Every reason can be abused. I dont wanna disencourage you but thats the way it goes…

I have been doing this stuff for more than 7 years now. I can say with 99.9% cofidence that overnight investments do not exists for the internet investor.

There is a way someone might do it if they had some descent financial backing, but they would have to explain their system to me before I would trust it.

Bottom line.

If you run into a program that says they can get you a legitimate return in one day and you are investing via ecurrency, ask them two questions:

-1 How do you make your returns.
If they give you any of the typical answers. (Forex, stocks,futures,realestate,) they are lieing.

-2 how is it that you can pay a return on a one day investment when it takes at least 4 days to move money in and out of ecurrencies.

Best wishes
Paul

There is nothing wrong with paying for advice, especially if the advice comes from a good source. BTW HYIP101 is a good source.

It just stands to reason that if you don’t want to go through the learning curve that most go through, you will want to learn from someone who knows what they are doing. Unfortunately, with free advice, you never know how good the advice really is.

There is tons of misinformaion floating around stated as fact. People aren’t purposefully misleading you, but are only repeating what someone told them.

Take your time, get educated. Your education will come fast by purchasing a good maunal. Your education will come slowly if you try to find all the information yourself.

Good luck

Requirements are stringent, and unless you’re associated to banks/ government in big ways, there’s no way to get that kind of returns with overnight investments/ PPPs.

Hmmmm…. I’ve never heard of an overnight investment. Don’t investments take time, besides day trading stocks, options, forex, etc. or gambling? I’ve never had a spare $100K for investing, so I’m not qualified to answer. I do know that there are plenty of offline and private investment opportunities that I know nothing about. It’s an interesting question to ponder.

So how about it, folks? Does anyone know if there are real overnight investments, not counting day trading and/or gambling?

Thanks,
Sharon

I can’t say as I blame you for not paying for info. (I just wanted to let you know about something I found useful.) There is a lot of free advice that is really good. Just keep accumulating advice that you find and like. (I had some in the last paragraph in my post above.)

In addition to using multiple sources of information, even for advice, never be afraid to ask questions. The only stupid question is the one not asked. There are an awful lot of really good people in the HYIP world that are willing to help anyone that wants help (without expecting/wanting anything in return.) And to add to Makila’s post, don’t feel obligated to use someone’s ref link, just because they introduced you to it. You may find that you’d like a different upline better.

When you find criteria, like e-gold others or real mailing address, don’t just use them as a hard and fast rule. There are some e-gold only that are good and some with real address information, that is fake. This goes for other criteria, too. Nothing is a hard and fast rule, when it comes to HYIP.

When you find a program you like, do a google search on both the program name and on the admin’s name. Read what you find. Also read all of the fine print on the site. Some information, which may come back to bite you, may be buried in the terms of service or member agreement.

I’ve put out a couple of advice articles this year. If you click on my name as author under an article, it’s easier to page back and find them.

I removed your email address for security reasons. You should never post your email address on a public blog or forum. There are programs that do nothing but scrape public sites looking for email addresses. You may wonder why I post my nobs address. It is because the only thing I use it for is this blog. Because, I’ve posted it, I get a lot of spam and phishing emails. Since I know it’s only for blog info, it’s easy to just delete everything else. It’s also a good idea to use different email address for different puproses. For example, use one email address for e-currencies and don’t use that one for anything else. (I fixed my address in the earlier post. For some reason, it added the period at the end to the address, so I just removed the period.)

What I can do for you is have anyone wanting to contact Neil email me. I will forward the email to you. You can decide if you want to contact them. No, I won’t use the email addresses for any other purpose nor will I ever give away or sell it to anyone. Would that be OK?

I wish you very good luck in your HYIP ventures! HYIP playing is a lot of fun, but it does take time to do it right.

JMO – Sharon

Paul, good advice…….. seem to be hearing them quite often though, by the way what does money you can afford to lose look like, I would love to see some (smile) But I understand what you mean, thanks.

Makila you do have a lot of advise to give and I am grateful. When I discovered HYIP I saw it as an opportunity to make some money online with little effort. Didn’t expect it would be so much work trying to figure out which HYIPs are the good ones. These web sites are so well done and look so professional. Its amazing what people will do the rip you off.

I found a site that said good HYIP sites usually have a mailing address, phone number and email address instead of an email address only and they usually have multiply payment methods not just e-gold. So I have been making a list of HYIP sites with these two things. I also have been using that site (http://www.whois.sc), it allows you to do a domain check which give the registered information about the site.

The problem is the list I have is very short, so since nobody mention some HYIP names or web site, I am asking again for persons to tell me. Makila you said you don’t send unless someone asks, well I am asking. I will look at them and make my own judgment. Not admin please. My email address is (removed for safety) (put hyipblog in the subject line please).

1. They dont earn on you by referring you to the site. When someone tells you to join a site and they give you a ref link its more likely the member is simply a greedy ref whore who just cares about their own money. ITs YOU that ask for a ref link, NOT the member proposing you to a site! I admit I also have 3000 euro in refs in xxx but I never send people my ref link unless they ask me for it.

2. Be sure the member of the community is NOT the admin in disguise or one of his/her friends. It’s hard to proof whether they are or they are not tough.

Other things you have to keep in mind :
- The return must be low. Preferably under 10% a month(NEVER over 20%)
If returns are unrealisticly high its a ponzi, period. (Of course an admin can claim they give 20% return, but due to fees, reinvesting, special formulars and so on their real return is only 8% or so lol, or they give a huge % as a BONUS and will lower it somewhere down the road)

- Be suspicious when someone claims that a site is 5 years old and they tell you : Check the domain at whois! First of all domains can be bought, that doesnt mean the site is that old. There are some that are older than 5 years sure, but dont believe it just by checking the domain.

- Be suspicious when a site claims they are registered at the government. On the contrary, A LEGIT, honest site avoids the government at all costs. They try to stay under the radar, so any site claiming to have theirself registered at the government is *crap*. If a site registers it will be at the BVI, Panama , Ecuador, but *surely* never with the government.

- Forex Sites that never post a negative % are either using a special formular to calculate earnings or they are posting fake digits.

- When a trader shows you proof they have a tradersaccount be aware that there is a difference in possessing a trading account and to be good in trading. Anyone can open a trading account. That doesnt mean they can trade. Even my grandmother can open a trading account and she can even show you a picture of a very profitable trade she has done!(just keep trading until you have a positive result by PURE gambling, then take a screenshot and send it to you…very very easy LOL)

There are a lot fo other things you have to keep in mind before investing, and maybe what I say may disencourage you from investing online. I can tell you…it all comes down to experience. Its important to have your sources that can guide you into choosing the right site but in the end its you that need to make a proper judgement. Start with spending small pocket money, practice and learn! Thats the best advise I can give you. Its possible to earn a lot online but the more experience you have, the more chance you indeed will make a profit(altough its not a guarantee)

Now why would you invest online? Isnt it easier to invest offline? Yes it is. But…an online investment is like having a job without reporting it to the tax office. Because really…its rare an investor online reports their earnings. This means your gross profit online = your net profit and there is NO offline investment that can give you a 6-10% return a month NET profit. Now the second question is…if offline investment dont give you that % is it sustainable? The answer is : YES. Traders offline DO get these kind of profits, but offline expenses are TONS higher than online expenses, so the net profit will be drained more offline.

Conclusions : Investing online is HIGH risk. But if you find the right site that does work(there are some, but they are *sadly* very very *rare*), you will earn twice as much as you would do with the same money offline.

Good luck!

Welcome to the wild and wooly world of HYIP. There a many people who will give you lots of advise. In my opinion most is limited at best.

The best advice I can give is something I’m sure you have already seen many times. That is to only use money you can afford to lose.

The second piece of advice and in my opinion the most important piece of advice is to keep your greed in check.

We all have dreams of getting rich with in HYIP. The chances are very slim of that ever happening. But if you limit your risk by only putting small portions of yours total investment portfolio in any one investment, you will do great. Especially if take a long term view of the market.

Last piece of advice is to never believe anything told you by an admin that can not be verified.

Just assume any program you are looking at is a ponzi unless the admin can prove otherwise.

Generally there are only a few types of investments that lend themselves to hyip.

You are at the right place. There are a good group of people who hang out on this blog. Jude does a good job or reporting.

Best wishes
Paul