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	<title>Comments on: Global Online Depository Under SEC Investigation</title>
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		<title>By: sharonsopinion</title>
		<link>http://hyipblog.nobshyip.net/2007/04/22/global-online-depository-under-sec-investigation/#comment-52185</link>
		<dc:creator>sharonsopinion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Apr 2007 05:48:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is interesting information that I came across on the Legisi thread at scam.com.  It&#039;s from the Treasury Department...

&quot;In the leading opinion, the Supreme Court of the United States, held that the definition of a security includes an investment contract, which is &quot;a contract, transaction, or scheme whereby a person invests his money in a common enterprise and is led to expect profits solely from the efforts of the promoter or third party...&quot; &lt;strong&gt;Designating such instruments as &quot;loans&quot; does not alter their legal status as securities.&lt;/strong&gt; SEC v. W.J. Howey Co., et. al, 328 U.S. 293, 66 S. Ct.1100, 90 L.Ed. 1244 (1946).&quot;

- Sharon</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is interesting information that I came across on the Legisi thread at scam.com.  It&#8217;s from the Treasury Department&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8220;In the leading opinion, the Supreme Court of the United States, held that the definition of a security includes an investment contract, which is &#8220;a contract, transaction, or scheme whereby a person invests his money in a common enterprise and is led to expect profits solely from the efforts of the promoter or third party&#8230;&#8221; <strong>Designating such instruments as &#8220;loans&#8221; does not alter their legal status as securities.</strong> SEC v. W.J. Howey Co., et. al, 328 U.S. 293, 66 S. Ct.1100, 90 L.Ed. 1244 (1946).&#8221;</p>
<p>- Sharon</p>
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		<title>By: JoseLeon</title>
		<link>http://hyipblog.nobshyip.net/2007/04/22/global-online-depository-under-sec-investigation/#comment-52110</link>
		<dc:creator>JoseLeon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Apr 2007 18:29:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks a lot sharon :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks a lot sharon <img src='http://hyipblog.nobshyip.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: sharonsopinion</title>
		<link>http://hyipblog.nobshyip.net/2007/04/22/global-online-depository-under-sec-investigation/#comment-52107</link>
		<dc:creator>sharonsopinion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Apr 2007 18:15:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>HI Jose,

E-currencies that are precious metals, like e-gold and ebullion, are not considered to be money transmission.  Companies that accept US dollars for a product, service or as a loan, are not considered money transmittors.  

According to the FinCEN (yet another US alphabet commission), money transmitters fit a specific criteria and G.O.D. doesn&#039;t fit as a money transmitter.  Here is their ruling: http://www.msb.gov/pdf/fincenruling2004-1.pdf

JMO,
Sharon</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>HI Jose,</p>
<p>E-currencies that are precious metals, like e-gold and ebullion, are not considered to be money transmission.  Companies that accept US dollars for a product, service or as a loan, are not considered money transmittors.  </p>
<p>According to the FinCEN (yet another US alphabet commission), money transmitters fit a specific criteria and G.O.D. doesn&#8217;t fit as a money transmitter.  Here is their ruling: <a href="http://www.msb.gov/pdf/fincenruling2004-1.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.msb.gov/pdf/fincenruling2004-1.pdf</a></p>
<p>JMO,<br />
Sharon</p>
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		<title>By: JoseLeon</title>
		<link>http://hyipblog.nobshyip.net/2007/04/22/global-online-depository-under-sec-investigation/#comment-52105</link>
		<dc:creator>JoseLeon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Apr 2007 17:51:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks sharon,
what I mean is that I have been informed (but I am not totally sure) that it&#039;s illegal to open an investment program accepting money from people without being registered as a financial company, and so SEC could do something against these unregistered programs, and so much more if it&#039;s by e-currencies. 

You can send and receive money using e-currencies to your family, friends... but not from people to trade that money. You need to be registered as a financial company. That&#039;s what i have been told. Is is true?

But opening a reliable program it&#039;s easier and faster with e-currencies and setting up a financial company costs a lot of money, that&#039;s why many people try to register a financial company through a foundation in other country: it&#039;s cheaper and you avoid taxes.

What I don&#039;t know is if you advice in your program that you don&#039;t accept money from USA people then you will avoid SEC or not.

If that&#039;s true it can be very dangerous to many reliable programs where we are investing now :(

Yes, I understand the difference with GOD now, thanks sharon, but I would like to know many more about all of this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks sharon,<br />
what I mean is that I have been informed (but I am not totally sure) that it&#8217;s illegal to open an investment program accepting money from people without being registered as a financial company, and so SEC could do something against these unregistered programs, and so much more if it&#8217;s by e-currencies. </p>
<p>You can send and receive money using e-currencies to your family, friends&#8230; but not from people to trade that money. You need to be registered as a financial company. That&#8217;s what i have been told. Is is true?</p>
<p>But opening a reliable program it&#8217;s easier and faster with e-currencies and setting up a financial company costs a lot of money, that&#8217;s why many people try to register a financial company through a foundation in other country: it&#8217;s cheaper and you avoid taxes.</p>
<p>What I don&#8217;t know is if you advice in your program that you don&#8217;t accept money from USA people then you will avoid SEC or not.</p>
<p>If that&#8217;s true it can be very dangerous to many reliable programs where we are investing now <img src='http://hyipblog.nobshyip.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Yes, I understand the difference with GOD now, thanks sharon, but I would like to know many more about all of this.</p>
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		<title>By: sharonsopinion</title>
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		<dc:creator>sharonsopinion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Apr 2007 16:04:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>HI Jose,

As I understand it, it is not the e-currencies.  The SEC has jurisdiction over the selling of securities across state lines.  G.O.D. was selling securities and they offered it in all 50 states, as well as globally.  They secured the loans with inventory and promised an interest on the loan.  Therefore, the loans were secured interest loans, which makes them a security.

As you already know, I&#039;m not a lawyer, so the above is just my interpertation and may not be complete or accurate.

JMO,
Sharon</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>HI Jose,</p>
<p>As I understand it, it is not the e-currencies.  The SEC has jurisdiction over the selling of securities across state lines.  G.O.D. was selling securities and they offered it in all 50 states, as well as globally.  They secured the loans with inventory and promised an interest on the loan.  Therefore, the loans were secured interest loans, which makes them a security.</p>
<p>As you already know, I&#8217;m not a lawyer, so the above is just my interpertation and may not be complete or accurate.</p>
<p>JMO,<br />
Sharon</p>
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		<title>By: JoseLeon</title>
		<link>http://hyipblog.nobshyip.net/2007/04/22/global-online-depository-under-sec-investigation/#comment-52016</link>
		<dc:creator>JoseLeon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Apr 2007 07:40:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Reading this situation with GOD and SEC, may I understand that any investment program accepting e-currencies and without being registered as a company is illegal?.

Because many reliable programs are in that situation. Is there any solution without being registered as a company?

Can someone explain a little more about this?.
Thanks</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reading this situation with GOD and SEC, may I understand that any investment program accepting e-currencies and without being registered as a company is illegal?.</p>
<p>Because many reliable programs are in that situation. Is there any solution without being registered as a company?</p>
<p>Can someone explain a little more about this?.<br />
Thanks</p>
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		<title>By: albanygang</title>
		<link>http://hyipblog.nobshyip.net/2007/04/22/global-online-depository-under-sec-investigation/#comment-51759</link>
		<dc:creator>albanygang</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Apr 2007 13:52:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good grief - the SEC must be powerful if even God is subject to their Cease and Desist Order!!!!!! I personally would have been quite happy if it had just been Bush.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good grief &#8211; the SEC must be powerful if even God is subject to their Cease and Desist Order!!!!!! I personally would have been quite happy if it had just been Bush.</p>
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