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This is the latest forum news from Stella on the 30 April 2007
“Dear Members,
Please read carefully, this short update contains the most important news since the launch of the program!
We have a deadline!
Because of what’s happening in the e-currency world, the Trust Partner has decided to set a deadline to reach the 100.000 members target. The date will be the31st of August 2007. This means that we havefour months to go.
This also means, that we know now who will qualify for the Compensation and who won’t. The Trust Partner has announced, that after the closure of the program for new members we will have one month to deliver the documents and ID copies. So, to qualify, you must turn 67 in October 2007 or later.
We don’t accept membership fees via 1mdc at this moment. As you must be aware already, they are having some problems, so all we can do is to keep our eye on them and wait until the good news. As soon as their problems are solved, we start accepting 1mdc again. I have been in touch with them and they assured me these problems won’t last long.
Starting today, the member counter will be updated manually and it will show you the actual number of qualified members. This means members, who turn 67 in October 2007 or later. So, don’t be surprised if you see lower numbers in the counter than last time when you logged in your member area. I will start the job to check the ages of the members in blocks of 1000 members and update the counter block by block.
Concerning the deadline. We shouldn’t be afraid of not meeting it! If you have a look at this weeks Time-Line Forecast above, you see that the forecasted time to reach 100.000 members is September. All we need to do is to get adjusted to the idea of the deadline, work as intensively as before and we will make it. We have made wonderful progress so far even without the deadline. Now, when we have it and we know that we must reach the target in four months, it will create positive pressure and push us all a bit further in our affairs. If you see it as a problem, turn it into a challenge!
So, to repeat myself…
-we must reach 100.000 members by the end of August 2007
- you must turn 67 in October 2007 or later to qualify for the Compensation
- we have one month/September to deliver the documents and the ID copies
- we don’t accept 1mdc at this very moment
And one more thing…
WE WILL MAKE IT!
Have a wonderful week!
Regards,
Stella”
Notice: If you don’t meet the age deadline you can still promote to others and easily earn 55,000€, chances are your earnings would be much greater because all those who join will likely promote to their friends and contacts down 12 levels.
The GPP membership has grown to: 53,442 (from the time of the writing), which is an increase of 1,508 members since last Monday.
Popularity: 22% [?]
Regardless of the (supposed) change in dates for the program to close, I’ve always thought it funny how they’re going to handle Paperwork and IDs. Maybe I missed it, but to the best of my knowledge, GPP has obfuscated who they really are from the beginning. If they don’t get the 100,000 you lose your $35 and everyone shrugs? They make it and you’re supposed to…..email? Documents and ID to…somebody? If that’s not the case, please update me. Thanks.
I really dont buy it. I just cant believe that they are legit. Perhaps I am being cynical but my take on this is that they are panicking about their pot of money being confiscated by the feds before they have had a chance to scam everybody. I would like to be proven wrong - just so I could be first in the queue to invest in the next round - thing is, I dont think I am.
For a better understanding about how GPP does work, pls, go here: http://www.globalpensionplan.info/globalpensionplan.html
What if, after reading the above and thoroughly understanding it, you still think GPP is a complete hoax? That’s where I’m at. I guess I just don’t have what it takes to make the leap of faith required, even for 30 piddly euros. Probably because just about everything in the history of the world of HYI points to this, also, being a load of bull (something explicitly prohibited on this blog). I can see how people are taken in by it, i.e. emotionally manipulated by the pitch. After all, retirement plan HYIPs strike a deep chord with most of us because they appeal to our desire to provide for ourselves and live a comfortable lifestyle in our latter years. But, this vague and convoluted scheme isn’t going to provide that. What it *is* intended to do is procure 30 euros from 100k people, which adds up to an attractive 3M euros (minus site hosting fees, of course).
The frustrating thing here is that we’ll have to wait until at least the end of August 2007 to see this thing unravel.
Due to e-gold problems recently, GPP is now offering a variety of manual payment options.
Pls, read the latest News from Stella below:
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“The new payment methods
I have been working on these new payment methods since the unfortunate news from e-gold/1mdc to make it as easy as possible for you to sign up new members. I hope they help you!
You can pay multiple membership fees via any of the following payment methods. That’s even recommended, as there are always some handling and transaction fees involved. So, to keep the additional expenses as low as possible, you might want to pool several membership fees and send them as one payment through the preferred payment method.
Please follow the payment instructions precisely. If you fail to follow them, it’s highly possible the payment arrives late or short, or it doesn’t arrive at all.
It’s important to notice, that making the payment through any of these more conventional methods makes the sign up process slower. I will sign up the new members manually only when the funds have arrived and cleared. So, if you choose one of these payment methods, the new member won’t immediately appear in your downline, as happens when signed up through e-bullion.
This information must not to be published! You are allowed to use it yourself and share with your downline, but please don’t leak it to the outsiders.
Please, send the payment information to support@globalpensionplan.net.
Thank you!
Wire Transfer
Please note:
- you must follow the instructions exactly, otherwise the wire won’t arrive to our bank account
- wires in EUR only
- add 10EUR on top of every wire you send to us to cover the fees our bank deducts
- use the exact Reference Number (5512881-19) in every wire, or else your wire will be delayed or even lost
- after you have sent the wire, please email us the full details including the amount sent, the name of the origin account and the transaction number alongside with the new member info (username, password, name, email, referral code)
DEPOSIT INSTRUCTIONS FOR EURO
Beneficiary: SOCIETE GENERALE DE GESTION S.A.
IBAN: EE52 0000 0093 2001 8540
Beneficiary’s address: Tallinn, Estonia
Beneficiary’s bank: TALLINN BUSINESS BANK LIMITED
S.W.I.F.T.: TABUEE22
Address of beneficiary’s bank: Estonia pst.3/5, 15097 Tallinn Estonia
Intermediary Bank: Deutsche Bank AG, Frankfurt / Eschborn, Germany
Acc. No. 947 4859 10
SWIFT: DEUTDEFF
Reference: 5512881-19
Cheque
Please note:
- cheques in EUR only
- clearing cheque costs 1.5% or minimum EUR15. Please add the cost on the top of the payable amount
- after you have sent the cheque, please email us the full details including the payable amount, the name of cheque book holder and the ordinary/cheque number alongside with the new member info (username, password, name, email, referral code)
The cheque to be addressed to:
First Oceanic Trust
Memo: Acc. 5512881-19
Mail the cheque to:
BCM Drawbridge House
27 Old Gloucester Street
London WC1N 3XX
England
Western Union
Please note:
- after you have sent the payment, you have to send us the exact details of the sender (name, address, phone, sent amount and MTCN - this is the number that WU will give you as a secret code) alongside with the new member info (username, password, name, email, referral code)
Address the payment to:
1) To country: Latvia
Receiver: Inara Astica
Address: Gertrudes 15-31/35
City: Riga
or
2) To country: Latvia
Receiver: Oksana Snetkova
Address: Gertrudes 15-31/35
City: Riga
or
3) To country: Latvia
Receiver: Ivita Vingra
Address: Gertrudes 15-31/35
City: Riga
EUR 5000 is the max. amount a member can send with WU to Latvia
USD 6000 is the max. amount a member can send with WU to Latvia
LVL* 5000 is the max. amount a member can send with WU to Latvia
* This is the best currency to send money to Latvia in. (1LVL app. = 1.42EUR)
Please use different names to different transfers (for example 1. - Inara Astica, then 2. Oksana Snetkova, then 3. Ivita Vingra, and again from the start- 1.2.3…) in order to avoid the big quantities sent to one and the same person. For example, if you send a Western Union payment to no 1 last week, then send it to no 2 this week and no 3 next week.” - Stella
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Now am not sure we’ll reach 100,000 members on 31st August 2007 cause since the e-gold problems last week, new sign ups have dropped almost 50% with just 767 members have joined in the last seven days.
I cross my fingers!
Luc, do you have any explanation why the whole thing suddenly is based in Latvia? I just think it’s fishy as they have mentioned it was being operated from Liechtenstein!?
/Machenka
“This information must not to be published! You are allowed to use it yourself and share with your downline, but please don’t leak it to the outsiders.”
So much for that. And why couldn’t it be published? What threat would that pose?
“Please use different names to different transfers (for example 1. - Inara Astica, then 2. Oksana Snetkova, then 3. Ivita Vingra, and again from the start- 1.2.3…) in order to avoid the big quantities sent to one and the same person. For example, if you send a Western Union payment to no 1 last week, then send it to no 2 this week and no 3 next week.”
Wouldn’t want to draw attention to anyone, huh? What’s all this cloak-and-dagger garbage, anyway?
Wire transfers to Estonia, via Germany.
Recipient: SOCIETE GENERALE DE GESTION S.A.
A French public limited company. Someone who is better at French might be able to locate them here
Cheques to the UK.
Recipient: First Oceanic Trust
They must mean First Oceanic Bank Ltd.
Mailing address: In the UK. Registered office address: Mogadishu, Somalia. Accounting administration: the Baltic states [which includes Estonia and Latvia] Review their website here.
Western Union to Latvia
Recipients: three women named Inara, Oksana, and Ivita. And in that order! Perhaps they are involved with First Oceanic Bank’s “account administration” department, though First Oceanic Bank’s site never gets more specific than “the Baltic states”. But FOB’s “treasury and working capital is mostly in the UK correspondent accounts”, so perhaps not. Whatever the case, these girls must be nicely tucked away, because Gertrudes iela 15 is googleless (though the street and surrounding businesses - such as a pizzeria - are easily found).
One wonders why Western Union wouldn’t go to the same place as cheques? Perhaps to avoid arousing FOB’s suspicions. Wouldn’t want to do anything warranting an SAR.
Nothing conclusive in all of that except that GPP, contrary to the appearance of legitimacy that SWIFT numbers and street addresses might suggest, seems to be operating in a shady manner. I don’t think any assurance can be derived from the inclusion of these payment methods.
Machenka, the whole company is NOT based in Latvia. Latvia is only for the payment process, a lot of online businesses are using payment methods based in Latvia (probably cause is offshore and cheaper) BUT again the whole company is registered in Liechtenstein.
andrewunknown, this information was posted few days ago in different forums and blogs and I think only serious investors or ppl interested to invest in this program should come here. NOT ppl who try to put this program down.
If you think it’s a scam, why do you bother to come here? Don’t waste your time and go away!
Luc,
I took a look at GPP and the credibility of the whole thing is laughable.
All this talk about keeping certain details from ‘outsiders’ is hysterical too!
I suppose the ‘outsiders’ have never heard of the internet or google?
Many of you have suggested we look at the GPP website for a more
comprehensive explanation of how it works.
I do this regularly. Usually when i need cheering up and can do with a
good laugh!
And did you honestly suggest Lativa is offshore?!?
Boy, i was laughing before, but that’s a good one!
If you are satisfied with the information provided by GPP,
then you deserve to lose your money.
The pity is, you didn’t do something useful with it - like give
it to charity.
Come on Luc, don’t get offended. Just apply a little common sense.
Like many others, i really would love to be proven wrong.
And pigs may fly…
@ Luc: I appreciate your opinion, but will post here if I choose unless Jude requests that I limit my comments to only those programs which I am involved in and/or those that I find praiseworthy. I am not trying to “put this program down” and have no agenda driving me to comment, other than perhaps dissuading people from throwing away their money (no matter the amount), being misled into false hopes, or lining the pockets of a criminal. That answers your “why do you come here?” question. No further or different justification is required for posting; certainly not satisfaction of your criteria (i.e. “serious investors or ppl interested to invest”). If you disapprove of my comments, then why not offset them some kind of refutation or at least positive reassurance rather than telling me to “go away”.
Glad I know better, otherwise I’d think you were being unfriendly.
Ooohh… geeezz! I was away for few days and look what happens here!!!
Pigs may Fly, there’s only one thing you are doing well:… LAUGHING!
For the rest, you only repeat the same nonsenses than the other naysayers.
About Latvia, I use to make transactions with Latvia bank and am very satisfied with them. Now IF Latvia is offshore or NOT, this is NOT the point… you do not bring anything new or any proof that this program is a SCAM… (as you think!).
andrewunknown, you said that you appreciate my opinion but in the same time you think I was being unfriendly… it’s a bit contradictory isn’t it???
Of course, you are very welcome to post your comments here but please try to be FAIR and impartial, I have the impression that you (but NOT only you) want to discourage ppl who want to join this program. Your comments are based on your bad experiences and your perception you have about this program but it’s not because you’ve been scammed before that this program is obviously a scam. Give us some FAIR infos if you think GPP is a scam.
We need a balance when we make arguments.
Hi,
Luc, if membership was asked not post or publish outside of our forum, why did you?
Sincere question.
It was published in many other places too, now I see that some have canceled it but no problem, next time I’ll publish it in “your” forum.
Fair and impartial: haven’t you read through the two lengthy comments posted to the “reverse pension” thread? The website content I referenced there is impartial, and the inferences I made based on that content are not unfair. My negative appraisal of GPP is based on the persuasive, if incomplete body of information derived from objective sources found in those comments. Until you’ve read through that and offered a compelling explanation demonstrating GPP’s legitimacy, don’t presume to suggest that my disapproval comes as a “result of [my] bad experiences”, as though some personal traumatic HYIP experience has rendered me unable to make a fair merit-based judgment of this program. My personal experience - about which you could know very, very little - has nothing to do with this. I’ve give enough “FAIR infos” to justify my negative perception of GPP. If this negative feeling about the program comes across as wanting to discourage others, all the better: people ought to be discouraged given the information available.
What I have yet to see are “FAIR infos” establishing GPP as a real opportunity. Not surprisingly, the Internet is short on hard data concerning this program and long on MLM gobbledygook, a convoluted program description and most recently, some dubious “secret” payment remittance information from “Stella”. I know, I know: it would compromise the program’s viability if anything substantial about it were revealed. That has always been and remains a very convenient excuse.
Oh how I would love to believe in Global Pension Plan. Much about it iseems just so plausible….but………….
Lichtenstein - pur-leez! If that doesnt get your alarm bells ringing then what will?
And then there are so many lovely reasons for all the secrecy leaving them completely untraceable and unaccountable.
Its only 30 euros. Not worth making a fuss over, is it? (Can you smell a whiff of rattiness yet?)
Even more lovely reasons to be able to say on Sept 30th - So sorry! We asked you to keep this one quiet (and spread the word too…duh!) but some of you spoilt it for everyone by querying us with the authorities and now we have been closed down …sadly just as we were about to pay out too! Beyond our control
Then ‘they,’ whoever they are, will not only have a cool 3 million euros but also copies of 100,000 UK passports, drivers licences or birth certificates. All ready for the theft of your identity leading to huge debts you didnt run up and the speedy emptying of your bank balance.
If you have taken a look at the GPP site (I did!) then I urge you to clear your caches, check for spyware and do a deep scan with whatever online protection you use. ‘They’ could already be looking for the passwords to go with that identity proof you might send them. Changing all your passwords isnt too paranoid a course in the circs but its your choice.
If I am wrong then when they do pay out I will dance naked in a Trafalgar Square fountain………which wont be half as humiliating as joining GPP and then getting my friends to come in will prove to be.
There are great opportunities out there. I hope you find one soon.
Good Luck!
Just discovered that there are many solid MLMs based in Lichtenstein which is a tax haven (offshore but on the mainland if you see what I mean).
Apologies to them but everything else I said above about GPP stands. IMHO.
I won’t argue against the negative posts above. I just give here the update from Monday 18th June.
The GPP membership has grown to: 61,760 ( 2,120 members in a week). Just 38240 members left but we still need to increase this number to at least 3,000 new members each week to meet the 31st August deadline cause we’re running about 1 month behind schedule and need about 3,365 new members to join each week.
Anyway, even if numbers fall a little short at the end of the deadline (31st August), this plan will come to fruition.
Luc,
I don’t know where you got the figure from..but as I’m typing right now the Member Counter shows a total of 68,118 members have been registered.
For the believers, good luck!
Shahif, I don’t give an update on a daily basis, I gave the update of Monday 18th June (above) just to give an overview for ppl reading this thread. But the new update is a good cause showing that new memberships have increased fast after only few days.
Well then….. I guess I’ll join this thread and while I’m here, I’ll leave this:
Total Members In our Plan: 68812
An hour ago, it was 68725 and 10 minutes ago, it was 68800 so it seems to be moving well. I hope that the posters that say “this won’t work” are wrong but it’s the chance we take to try to get a head. Good luck to you all in whatever you all do
Zeus
Thnx Zeus, all update are welcome here!
Hey Luc,
I have a question for you. Someone in a Forum said that the problem with these RPP’s is that they can’t make this legal in all countries. Evidently, he feels that this is a scam but my response to his statement was that I thought the banking solution with the debit card access should work around that formality. What do you think?? Thanks for your answer.
Zeus
Zeus, according to Stella the debit card will be replaced. Right now the Trust Partner company is working on a complete online banking solution which will be offered to the members and is supposed to be accepted in ALL countries. Stella will keep us updated on this development in due time.
One thing is sure: All the funds will be paid out all at once through the Trust Partner company. They won’t use e-gold or any other e-currency for the payouts cause the amount is far too high for them to handle.
Hope that help!
That helps a lot, Luc. Thanks.
Zeus
Luc:
Please advise if you are knowledgeable as to how the procedure will play out once the 100,000 members and/or August 31, 2007 is reached. Would all correspondence be by email and will we receive a policy by snail mail which we must sign off ownership of? Also exactly what type of ID will be required by us to send in to prove whom we are?
We understand that this same type of RPP was operated in the past by same group (?) and proved to be successful. You may comment on that if you wish.
We are members of GPP and have positive thoughts for payout once the pertinent conditions of the plan are met.
Thanks.
Virginia
Virginia,
I was few days on vacation, am back now!
About your questions: Once the target is met, the payout should be completed in about two months (time to verify all documents). I can’t tell you the exact procedure but we’ll be kept inform about this in due time.
It will be required to provide at least a signed agreement, an ID doc. like a ID card, driver license or passport and in order to be paid, your bank account details. A recent bill - where is displayed our current address and phone number - could be also asked and if they judge necessary, other docs could be required at their own discretion.
I’ve heard that many RPP were successful offline but as I don’t have any proof I don’t talk much about this. I don’t know if this group was operating another successful RPP in the past, if it’s the case, they were probably operating offline only.
Launching a program like this online is more difficult. For instance, GPP was launched on the 23rd of May 2005 and have experienced many difficulties like SPAM and DDoS attacks, but all of them have been beaten successfully, for instance: they’ve been attacked last summer and autumn and had to use a different domain extension due to a HUGE DDoS attack.
Now they try to keep a low profile as much as they can. I’ll keep you informed here if I know more.
Hope that helps!
Just a Quick update from Stella:
“Dear Members,
I just want to let you know, that the
e-bullion sign ups will be enabled on the 24th of July again.
It looks like we don’t have any time to manually sign up members until then. This is because of the hectic schedule the Trust Partner has created.
I will let you all know once sign ups have been enabled.
Have a nice weekend!”
hey all!
i signed up for GPP and i believe it will succeed. Only thing i don’t understand is this:
- you must turn 67 in October 2007 or later to qualify for the Compensation
and where will we send the ID papers?
Hi DeeJay,
If you turn 67 at the time the payout proceedings start, you do not qualify for the 55,000 euro but you do qualify for the Loyalty Program Rewards which is all the people that sign up to your reference link. Hope that helps you.
Zeus
Hi DeeJay
Forgot to answer the second part of your question. When the payout proceedings begin, you shall be sent explicit instructions regarding your ID info.
You should also go to the GPP Forum and read the topics there. Stella, the GPP liaison, has already posted info to get everyone ready for the payout proceedings.
Zeus
Thanks for the answers Zeus.
Hi
I just want to hear from 1 person who got paid. I also joined but I am really afraid that this is a scam. I joined out of greed….. I will be honoust! We Dutch aren’t any different then you Americans, Hahahhahahaaaa.
So just 1 person. This request goes also out to all the ambassadors of this plan/scam. Just show me 1!
Hi Amster2007dam,
No one has gotten paid yet because they have not met the target of 100,000 members but they’re over 85,000 at the moment. Somewhere around mid to late August, I predict that they will meet the target and then they will start the payout proceedings where that will take about 2-3 months and then everyone should get paid in one shot!!
Zeus
GOOD NEWS!!!
The GPP deadline is set for 31st August 2007. We have less than 5 weeks left but GPP forecast to reach 100,000 members in the Mid last week of August.
At my last count, the GPP membership is 85,947. GPP needs less than 14,000 new members to meet the 31st August deadline and this is not going to be a problem cause some days there are more than 1,000 members joining!
*****
On Monday 30 July 2007
Member Count: 85,211
Members joining last week: 7,957
Available ‘Compensation’: €802,780,000
Available ‘Loyalty Rewards’: € 350,304,000
‘Loyalty Rewards’ earned/accrued this week: € 90,968,000
*****
So far so good!…
Another update: GPP has decided to remove Western Union, Wire Transfer and Cheques/Bank Drafts as alternative payment methods and rely solely upon e-Bullion.
Below the post from Stella:
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30th July 2007
“Dear Members,
We have decided to drop Western Union, wire transfer and cheques and to stick to e-bullion only as an accepted payment method. The reason is simple, as only a few members use these alternative methods which, however, causes a great workload to sign up new members manually and slows us down.
Share these news with your team, please!
Thank you!”
amster2007dam, Did you not read the plan before you decided to post “Show me one person who got paid”. Here and on U-Tube, with your derogatory comments. You said on U-Tube you think we Americans are funny people. I see you joined anyway. Go figure.
Nederlanders kan ook heel stom zijn. Let op met de anti-Amerikaan comentair!
The rules clearly state that pay out will not happen until the target membership of 100,000 is reached. When I checked today it was around 89,000.
Eerste lezen!!! Read First!!!
“Nederlanders kan ook heel stom zijn. Let op met de anti-Amerikaan comentair!”
Oh now that’s *funny*! My laugh of the day!
Almost 95,000 members today. soon it will be over. yuhuhu
As am on vacation now, I’m NOT often online so am bit late to deliver the message of Stella (below), anyhow we have GOOD news again… Woohoo!!!
Post of Stella (on Saturday 4th July)
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“Dear Members,
We have reached the point when the new sign ups have been
disabled and we have started working on the database to find out
the number of qualified members.
We are also manually signing up all failed memberships before the
sign ups are allowed again.
Now is the time to get all the remaining new sign ups ready and
proceed as soon as it’s allowed again!
Also, please have the copy of your ID or birth certificate ready!
I assume processing the current database for the qualified
members and to sign up the failed memberships will take a week or
two, so please be patient!
More information next week!” - Stella
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The work on the GPP database would take approximately 2 weeks (I believe), this will bring us to around the 18th of August, and at the end of these 2 weeks, there would be still a few memberships left (due to those who are not qualified). Maybe some will make bad comments due to those who have been rejected…
But so far so good!
100.000 is here… now lets see what will happen
For those who still want to secure a position, it’s NOT too late to do it.
Latest update from Stella
“Dear Members,
Even if the member counter has hit the magical 100.000 already,
you can still keep signing up new members as before. We haven’t
removed the over-aged members (those who won’t qualify for the
Compensation) from the total member figures yet, so we keep the
sign ups enabled until further notice. I will give the notice one
week before I close the site for new sign ups.
This is the last chance to put in all the remaining members! So
get back to work now before it’s too late! Those, who still delay
signing themselves up, will lose the opportunity in two or three
weeks!
Share this message with your group, please!
Regards,
Stella”
Luc:
Please advise as to what is known about these 2 other “reliable” reverse pension plans that were listed on a GPP website. Are they affiliated with GPP?
http://www.globalconnect-network.com
https://www.imperiainvest.net
Also we have not been able to get into the GPP website to check out profiles, add new members, or get into the forum for a number of days. We are from the USA. Do you know if that problem will be corrected in the near future?
Thanks for any information that you can give us.
Virginia
Thanks Stella for updation.
I am the oldest memeber since last july 2006 when GPP has grown just 8000 members.now my 4 year old doughter is coming under my reference.
Just waiting to fulfil my dreams ,to build my dream house and to have better standard of living.
It’s posts like abdul’s that make me want to write another “probable scam” post - just to inject some healthy skepticism into the discussion so that the landing will be a little softer if - and mostly likely when - it comes. “My 4 year old daughter”, “Just waiting to fulfil my dreams ,to build my dream house and to have a better standard of living”: all that hope riding on GPP and it is probably going to be shot to hell here in short order.
Agreed, abdul’s post is heartbreaking. If everyone who joined GPP was a jaded, veteran HYIPer, it would be a different story entirely. I’m afraid there are probably way too many “abduls” in this program.
Possible scammer making tons of money aside, all those hopes and dreams will be crushed if GPP doesn’t pay. The tragedy will be emotional rather than financial and the pain far more difficult to deal with as a result.
For the sake of all the abduls, let’s hope GPP makes good.
Virginia, could you give me the link of the GPP website where you saw the 2 programs you’ve listed? Not sure, it’s come from a GPP website.
I’ve never heard about these 2 programs and I don’t think they are affiliated with GPP. Looks like the 2nd program is NOT a RPP (but just an investment program) and both are not registered in the same location than GPP. So be careful!!! Personnally, at the moment, except GPP, I don’t recommend any program on this Blog. Of course, you are free to join any program you wish but use your own DD.
About the access into the GPP website, be aware that at least 100,000 members are trying to access the website at the same time and GPP is also experiencing massive DDoS attacks so logging is going to be more difficult.
Anyhow there are many things you can do to get into your back office:
You can refresh your browser; Re-boot your computer; Delete temporary files from your computer (cookies for instance); Be patient with slow loading pages…let them completely load. If none of the above works, be calm and just keep trying…
Hope that help!
Luc: (In regard to:http://www.globalconnect-network.com/members/go.php?r=1&i=10) and (https://www.imperiainvest.net/memberarea/?ref=astrolab)
The website where these 2 suggested “reliable reverse pension plans” were listed on 8-9-07 is http://www.globalpensionplan.info/. I may have been mistaken to say that it was a GPP website. You will probably know about it once you get into it. Thanks for your concern and help.
I have been able to get into the GPP website recently to check profiles, sign up a new member, etc. So as you suggested it is a very busy website at this time. Thanks for your tips to accomplish entrance.
Blessings,
Virginia
Virginia,
Even if these 2 RPPs are listed in the GPP info site doesn’t mean they are affiliated to GPP. In diff forum boards, we used to see a lot hyips that are advertised there cause they are paying for that but normally the forum boards have nothing to do with them and shouldn’t even recommend one of them (I know this rule is not always respected). Anyway, you have to do your own DD at the end.
I’ve re-checked the site: global connect and it looks like something with not very good English is trying to run this RPP and asking for only 10,000 members. This has a “fishy” feel to it, so again I suggest you to be very careful.
And GPP doesn’t have a “fishy” feel to it?
TBurtch, I said that GPP is NOT affiliated with any other programs out there.
The 2 programs cited by Virginia have paid to be advertised in the GPP info website… That’s it!!! (in fact, I didn’t see they were advertised there) but again there are NO links with GPP. To be frank, I believe these programs are pure scams.
Now I don’t want to talk about any program here except GPP.
Hi Abdul,
I am not an old member like you but like you I have also signed in my three year old daughter. Let us all pray to GOD that GPP pays, let us put in our hopes and beliefs to generate enough positive energy to counter the naysayers. I HAVE EXPERIENCED AND SO DO BELIEVE IN THE MIRACLE WORKING CAPACITY OF PRAYERS.
We work hard enough to give our children the best we can, GPP payout will better it.
Iamrich
I’m sure its a scam ppl!!… They have already hit the 100.000 target and are now ’searching’ for all the ‘failed’ profiles that are missing DOB,Gender, ect… How is it that they are now ’searching’ for all these ‘failed’ profiles when Stella said that she was MANUALLY making all the GPP accounts… Hmmm?? Again maybe she was too tired and didnt realize that she was missing date of birth (DOB), genders, ect… (DUH!) hahah..
It boggles my brain that guys get involved in these plans
Every single step of this entire process / method is screams SCAM
a simple calculation on just the INTEREST on $12 billion investment by the fairy Trust Partner will tell you that this is all nonsense.
Their blurb says that the average policy duration is 34 years. Would you invest $12 bill to make $ 8 bill on 34 years (before interest costs)??????????
A few things to remember:
1. trading “used” policies is not illegal, and is good business in the UK, so why all the need for smoke and mirrors
2. the reason people pay more than the surrender value on a policy is that the majority of the costs have ALREADY been paid by the previous owner. GPP is buying NEW policies, so the maths does not work at all!
3. Special payments to 3 people in Latvia??? Keep the payments small so not to attract attention???
Are you serious?
4. Has no body thought of the identity theft issue here?
Some dodgy East European group will 100,000 names, IDs and personal details. This is like a massive Nigerian 419 scam!
5. A mystery person called Stella with no surname or a phone number
6. Virtual offices in London & Latvia with untraceable contacts?
7. 100,000 new bank accounts opened in a secret location with internet access and passwords?
8. A statement on their website that “bans” law enforcement people being members
SCAM SCAM SCAM
Sorry folks, but due diligence beats blind faith everytime
woolineyes, GPP is NOT a scam, the program is solid and is stronger than never before, they will pay on due time. And those who know Stella very well are ALL saying that she’s an honest and trust-worthy person.
OK! There’s an update regarding a new funding option: C-gold below:
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Dear Members,
C-gold seems to work the best with our system. It also is cost-effective for the members.
If you are sending more money into your e-currency account to purchase Additional Policies or to sign up new members, please consider C-gold!
Thank you!
Regards,
Stella
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If you’re having troubles with e-Bullion, please follow Stella’s instructions below:
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Dear Members,
As the purchase of Additional Policies through E-bullion still seems to cause some trouble, you can transfer the funds to account C51367 and then email me the transaction ID, USD amount, username the policies are for and also the number of policies desired and I will do the rest.
The USD price per Additional Policy is 29.40.
Email address to send the details is:
global.member.support@googlemail.com
Thank you!
Regards,
Stella
SURE WOULD LIKE TO KNOW SOMETHING, OR AT LEAST HEAR SOMETHING. IT’S FAR PAST AUGUST. TOMORROW, WILL BE PAST 2007…………….EMAIL ADDRESS DIDN’T WORK FOR ME
@SUCKER BAIT, the program is closed today on the 31st of December 2007 (so now it’s too late to join). The payout will be between the 15th and 29th of February 2008.
Their new address is http://www.globalpp.net
Their support is currently as low as possible due to problems they have to face with their programmer but bear in mind that your money invested is safe.
I wish you ALL a Happy & Prosperous New Year 2008 with GPP!!!
This is Jan. 7th 2008
My father has joined all his family members and friends into this. I did a lot of research on the internet, and what a bunch of horse@#$% is this!!!! Anyone asking for such things as bank accounts, pic. ids, or anything like that is up to no good. IT IS A SCAM PEOPLE!!! Did anyone get paid in September like asked? Did you ever consider the reason why you can’t find info on these people running this huge scam, because they want to remain hidden from prosecution. Using system like ebullion, they cannot trace them.
tisha, with all the respect, if you didn’t join this program, why do you bother to come here?
Again, those who are unsure… don’t join!!!… It couldn’t be more easy!!!
By the way, the closing date has been extended. GPP will CLOSE on January 31st so those who wish to participate or buy extra policies, it’s still time to join.
Hi luc,
I want to believe so hard in this programm! Can you explain me why they always extend the deadline since couple of months? Now is at the end of february???
And where did you take all your informations? Is it in the forum? Because they can say what they want. We have nothing else to do. Just waiting and wish!
All my family is in this, and hope tha t we’re not in a big scam and make us dreaming for nothingé
Do you have contact with phone meeting every week?
French canadian
People, I am very sad to say that you have been scammed. I’m really quite shocked to see how many of these scams are out there. It seems that all of these reverse pension plans are scams! If this was a true financial tool, why wouldn’t everyone be doing this? Why must it be overseas? Why send money to someone who you have no idea of where they are located? Look at the site in WHOIS.COM. The site has it’s information hidden. Take a look at any other bank anywhere in the world… Meaning REAL BANKS. How many have their site information hidden. How many have only ONE person to handle these millions of dollars? This has proven to be a good scam. A very good scam might I add however. The 2 yrs that this has taken to get together has surely proven to be profitable. Too bad that these scammers could not haveput their intelligence toward something more beneficial
Bonjour French Canadian, comment ça va?… OK! let’s talk in English now!
I don’t get my infos from their forum anymore cause I know they are saying everything they want but I gather my infos from a close friend of Stella. They don’t give all their personal informations for obvious reasons I’ve developped before.
Again, I still believe this program is REAL but I understand your scepticisms. You know on internet NOTHING is guarantee, that’s why we always warn ppl to invest only what they can afford to lose (here a 1 time membership of 30€ 20€ for additional policies).
If this program will not pay it’s NOT obviously because they are a scam, bear in mind they have to overcome many challenges. Here the main challenge is the Offshore Banking Solutions due to the size of the transactions. It’s the first time on the internet history that a program will send a so big amount of transactions so they have to find a safe way to do it. It’s still a new area for them.
Hope I answered to your questions!
OK! This is the latest update from Stella:
“Dear Members,
I have just come back from Kuala Lumpur, where we had further meetings concerning the program and the Banking Solution. We didn’t meet a single obstacle during the discussions, the only uncertain thing is the time-frame.
The company, who’s going to provide the solution, is applying for the financial license shortly. They are preparing the paper-work at the moment and then they are submitted for the fast-track processing. Also building the online-part of the solution is being started shortly. I am not aware of the exact specifications yet, but my humble comment and request was to make it as user-friendly as possible.
The Banking Solution will be a far superior solution to the personal bank account. This will eliminate the fear of having the funds frozen by your local bank because of a sudden sizable deposit, that differs from the normal daily and monthly transactions. A big number of members have contacted us because of this fear, and I must admit it’s for real. The size of the transaction are going to be that big, that as soon as they hit your account, the national central bank will start asking questions. That really isn’t a problem, as the funds are coming from a legal origin, but it’s very trouble-some, frustrating and time-consuming for you. Thus this will be avoided as well as possible.
The Trust Partner has asked me not to close the site, i.e. the sign ups and additional policy purchases until the Banking Solution is ready and is being launched. Hence you can, if you so wish, sign up and buy additional policies without hurry. You can also update the profiles if needed.
We will go in one month steps from here, meaning that the site is open for one full calendar month until the situation is reviewed again. For example, if the Banking Solution is fixed during February, I will close the site in the end of February and no more purchases will be accepted. I think it’s better to know this in advance and not trying to guess the date in case this and that happens.
The member support is working on and off. I have to travel a lot and join different meetings with the Trust Partner and other partners related to the program, and this will prevent me from answering emails every single day. I promise to do my best anyway!
Please keep filling the Membership Agreements! There is no need to fill in your banking coordinates anymore, but we are going to keep the Agreement and not to confuse members with a new one.
More information will be available soon!
AND…
Now some of the members got an idea the Banking Solution will be located at Malaysia. But that’s not correct. I didn’t give you the jurisdiction, so please don’t make your own assumptions.
The Banking Solution will not be located at Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia nor even in Asia. It will be a completely secure jurisdiction and the operation will be secured by the government office.
Regards,
Stella”
Hi Luc,
I have also a contact with someone, who know’s directly
a friend of Stella. He told me last Friday that is really True! I aggree that is a big transaction and the delay will be cause by the banking solution.
I tell myself: Around the world, they are so much people rich with so much money that we can’t imagine how they did to arrive there! They did transactions that we don’t know( the small people!) They still become richer and richer together to keep the power.Do you think that everything is all clean. But they still doing money in ways that we don’t know, because it’s not our world!
Lot of people gonna try to say all kind of bad things about this program! Shure, i think the world is so negative
and think that the only way to do money, is working hard with a small job and exchange hours for money.
I think in life, we got to be in good position with good opportunitys.
And i don’t want some people put bad energys in this project. So go away if you don’t believe in this and why, you have nothing else to do? You have to go to work!
Go away with all negative thoughts!
HA!!! Luc, you must be a very special friend! Yes, continue to send money, ots and lots of money! I’ll bet you did have conversation with your good friend Sara. You two are probably enjoying a drink together right now, unless you are the same person! Tell you what, tell your “Stella to use a swiss bank. What would be the problem there. Everyone think of that before you send another dollar! Oh, everyone, I’ll even pay the taxes! Try that one, instead of these bogus online banks. Each one that I’ve seen is on a page that lists about 30 online banks that are listed as suspicious or completely bogus!
SEND US AN ADOBE READER FILE AND SHOW US AN OFFICIAL DOCUMENT… I mean ask Sara… HA! I’d better not hold my breath.
Does your new solution use another online bank that you draw up that no one has heard of before? I have never heard of any of the banks you have used. Far as I can tell none of them seem to have around for more than 3 or 4 years.
Tell you what, let me deposit 10 dollars then let me withdraw it. I’ll bet that this will never happen. EVERYONE THINK OF THAT BEFORE MORE MONEY IS SENT!
Yes, I’ll bet that there were no disagreements! There would be no disagreements with me either to get fresh, new, sweet money! I’ll bet that your drink was spent with those dollars from
Where is the bank? Why is it hiding, especially since it is ‘overseas! Why can’t your money be recovered one it’s sent??!!!
Try to do that if you will. Answer, because they take the cash and run. Well actually not run, but sit there and continue to collect cash.
I must say, this is funny… Stella. Who is this clown! Good job at scamming! I am disgused that you continue to rob people, but I’ll give you credit, you did so without even giving a COMPLETE name! I can’t even borrow a dollar without be checked out, unless I have identification! Maybe I should let them copy my passport? Wait a minute you want that copy don’t you? You are a good one! A real good one. So have her, if it is a her, which I actually don’t believe, and tell us your last name!!
So, those dollars are being held until this solution is found huh? What are you doing with the interest that your company… I mean you are getting. Well if you did have it onhand, that could add up in itself to a tidy sum… especially oftr a good 2 yrs or so… But it not there anyway. Nice house and other goods though huh?
Now now, let’s stay positive! I’m sure that this money is being enjoyed by someone! No, I’m positive! LOL…
I sure would like to be proven wrong, especially since my wife did this agains my will. Tell you what, she’s betting on this thing. I’ll get a lotery ticket. At least I know that I have a chance at getting something… Not a certainty that someone else is…
So, anyone agree with that… Comments?
If you don’t believe it, why you take some times to write shit about this?
Go away with your shit bad thoughts! We don’t need your opinion here.
I’ll bet that you don’t want these comments…
EVERYONE PLEASE READ… I’ll be your best supporter if you can read on and provide this info! Until then, please, everyone read on………… Oh, and reguards to your friend who is a friend of Stella’s cousin twice removed….
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My friend Stella (or even you Frenc Canadia), why don’t you send us a PDF file for us to fill out? You do know what a PDF file is don’t you? Surely you can send a PDF showing letterhead, even with even the smallest amount of info… In other words, show me that you have the ability to make the file at all. Someone handling 20 Billion surely has this capability…
By the way, what is the name of this Bank with the 20 Billion? Surely you can give that out. That would have nothing to do with your… Tell you what, why don’t you use that bank for your solution!
People, please do not get duped into sending these clowns any further money. Please do not!!!
ACTIONS ARE MORE IMPORTANT THAN WORDS! They have presented many words. NO ACTION!!!
Goodness, there is another scam with some Global Pension Insurance Trust with a Mr. Ben Siegler! You mean that you couldn’t even come up with a different name! HA HA HA! Just let me find out more about that one.. Ha!
I’m afraid that I will have to post these thoughts on every site as this that I can find! A true waste of time, but I’ll have the benefit of preventing further taking advantage of others…
Stella, what’s the deal w/ your english. A bit better than before but don’t you think that it should be better handling all of these millions, I mean Billions?
Yes although i spent a couple of dollars on this, I’m still angry! I remeber hearing that the policies were going to be half price for some period of time… Guess the dollars were starting to dry up huh?
PEOPLE Do not buy more policies! For goodness sake, show yourselves just ONE DOLLAR, just ONE from this scam!
Do this for us, I might even believe you… NOT! But do this for others still beleving in this these few things. Surely you can do this…
1) Show a PDF (Like I said, if you know what one is).
2) What’s your last name
3) Which bank is holding thse 20 Billion. This should be outrageoly easy!
4) Where in Africa, are you located? Hmmm I mean which country are you in? Tell us something about ehre you are or any info as noted in 239 by Rokka.
I hope that I can ruin your flow of nonsense!
Someone tell me of other places that I can post this so that I can “direct people to “wait” on this payout!
Stella, please comment before I go on a posting marathon! Better do it fast too! Found one already! Get ready, set, (you are up)! I’m waiting~~
Mike Check
Where are you from French Canadian? I’d think that a true French Canadian would have better english skills….
MikeCheck
First of all, I second what French Canadian said and I thank him for his positive thoughts.
When ppl are focused on negative things (like MikeCheck), they don’t get much in life. So MikeCheck, if you didn’t join this program why wasting your time worrying over it???… I, French Canadian & a lot of members, have decided to join this program and are happy. We’ve joined with risk capital that we can afford to lose… so we know the risks!
Now about your comments above… am sorry to deceive you, MikeCheck, but I don’t know who is this Sara you’ve mentioned. Many ppl here know me very well, I’m one of the first time reader of Jude’s Blog. If this Sara is a scammer so I let you know I have nothing to do with her.
Now I may be wrong concerning a program sometimes and you’re not obliged to be agree with me but does it mean am a dishonest person trying to cheat people? The answer is obvious!
About Stella, I have been in fairly close contact with her myself and I know also few friends who have been in contact with her over these last 2 years and I have no doubt that she is acting in good faith with information she is given by the Trust Partners. Now you wonder if Stella is a woman? Yes she IS! At least she has a female voice through the phone as I talked with her. And I do know few persons who have details about her ID which they will NOT share with anybody for privacy reasons and they respect her privacy. I hope you understand that! Maybe she’ll have to deal with problems out of control but does it mean she’s a scammer? I let you answer yourself!
About the Banking Solution, I can speculate - like everyone else - that the Banking Solution will be likely located in Switzerland, Austria, Lichtenstein or Panama because these countries have very strong privacy rules with respect to banking but again the reason they won’t specifically reveal their location is because there are (at least) 100,000 GPP members located overseas and they would all be harrassing the bank for more details, which would likely destroy the program.
Aah! Ooh!… I hope you understand my english too cause am french and I know my english is not perfect.
About Ben Siegler’s Global Pension Insurance is NOT GPP. Some members keep receiving emails concerning Global Pension Insurance Trust & Mr. Ben Siegler.
I warn you that Mr. Ben Siegler’s Global Pension Insurance Trust has nothing to do with Global Pension Plan, nor does Global Pension Plan have anything do with his offer!
Luc,
I’m sorry to offend. Actually I was referring to Stella, not Sara. Nonetheless, I can appreciate your close relationship with Stella. Perhaps I could get to know her better myself…
Indeed, you mentioned that people such as myself do not get much in life…. Why is this? I’m not one to be negative. Trully I am not. Actually I do believe however, that scammers often do get a lot of things in life, to include others MONEY.
Luc, curious, I never said anything about you cheating us…
Ha, you mention th